Comments on: MD First Ride: 2011 Zero Motorcycles (Bike Reports) (News) http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/03/md-first-ride-2011-zero-motorcycles/ Motorcycle News, Editorials, Product Reviews and Bike Reviews Sun, 19 May 2013 20:34:59 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.2 By: gmore http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/03/md-first-ride-2011-zero-motorcycles/comment-page-1/#comment-20353 gmore Wed, 13 Apr 2011 01:18:23 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=14274#comment-20353 Very well put Steve... I totally agree with the need for development and the fact that these things don't go from from nothing to great engineering overnight. Very well put Steve… I totally agree with the need for development and the fact that these things don’t go from from nothing to great engineering overnight.

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]]> By: gmore http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/03/md-first-ride-2011-zero-motorcycles/comment-page-1/#comment-20352 gmore Wed, 13 Apr 2011 00:54:49 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=14274#comment-20352 I was really attracted at first, but the numbers don't make sense. Adding to that the low range, the non-badass feel (sounds like it - I haven't had the pleasure of riding one) and the limited speed... sorry to say, but its a no-go for me. For now anyway. Though, I have to say, this is looking kinda like the Smart car where they priced a good idea away from possible fruition. Here's my wish list: lower price, longer range (many people commute 40+ miles one way now-a-days), and perhaps a cooler look. To be honest... if the price was [a lot]lower with the product as it is now, I might give it a shot. I was really attracted at first, but the numbers don’t make sense. Adding to that the low range, the non-badass feel (sounds like it – I haven’t had the pleasure of riding one) and the limited speed… sorry to say, but its a no-go for me. For now anyway. Though, I have to say, this is looking kinda like the Smart car where they priced a good idea away from possible fruition. Here’s my wish list: lower price, longer range (many people commute 40+ miles one way now-a-days), and perhaps a cooler look. To be honest… if the price was [a lot]lower with the product as it is now, I might give it a shot.

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]]> By: Notnasayer http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/03/md-first-ride-2011-zero-motorcycles/comment-page-1/#comment-20110 Notnasayer Wed, 06 Apr 2011 18:19:18 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=14274#comment-20110 WTF, have any of you NA Sayer's even rode a Zero. Let's see, most bikes get let's say 40 mpg. do the math, $3.60 a gallon is 9 cents a mile. A Zero bike can run at a cost of less than 1 cent per mile. Wake up people, lose the ego's and stop trying to make the Zero bikes something they are not. They are built to comutte. I ride 60 miles round trip to work and do it 5 days aweek for less than $3.00, ON my Zero bike. These bikes work for alot of people. You all keep buying gas, oil, filters, spark plugs, clutches, pistons, valves and cranks. I will keep the fuel savings and buy my next Zero bike. Wake up people. WTF, have any of you NA Sayer’s even rode a Zero. Let’s see, most bikes get let’s say 40 mpg. do the math, $3.60 a gallon is 9 cents a mile. A Zero bike can run at a cost of less than 1 cent per mile. Wake up people, lose the ego’s and stop trying to make the Zero bikes something they are not. They are built to comutte. I ride 60 miles round trip to work and do it 5 days aweek for less than $3.00, ON my Zero bike.

These bikes work for alot of people. You all keep buying gas, oil, filters, spark plugs, clutches, pistons, valves and cranks. I will keep the fuel savings and buy my next Zero bike. Wake up people.

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]]> By: Gabe http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/03/md-first-ride-2011-zero-motorcycles/comment-page-1/#comment-20021 Gabe Tue, 05 Apr 2011 16:41:17 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=14274#comment-20021 Man-o-copter! Ha! Well, the Zero peeps said he was more into starting companies and trying out new things than working on a more mature product, plus the man-o-copter has been a long-time dream of his. He's more an idea guy than a business guy, so it makes sense to me. They all swore up and down there was no conflict between Neal and the new people or new ideas coming in. Man-o-copter! Ha!

Well, the Zero peeps said he was more into starting companies and trying out new things than working on a more mature product, plus the man-o-copter has been a long-time dream of his. He’s more an idea guy than a business guy, so it makes sense to me. They all swore up and down there was no conflict between Neal and the new people or new ideas coming in.

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]]> By: Gabe http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/03/md-first-ride-2011-zero-motorcycles/comment-page-1/#comment-20019 Gabe Tue, 05 Apr 2011 16:28:45 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=14274#comment-20019 About 75,000 miles worth of riding. I don't have a price on the big pack in the S and DS, but the small pack is $2500. But how much will it cost in 10 years? Not only will it be cheaper, the replacement will also have better range, more power and shorter recharge time. And at 75k, it will still have 80% of capacity (according to Zero) and still have some residual/recycling value. About 75,000 miles worth of riding. I don’t have a price on the big pack in the S and DS, but the small pack is $2500. But how much will it cost in 10 years? Not only will it be cheaper, the replacement will also have better range, more power and shorter recharge time. And at 75k, it will still have 80% of capacity (according to Zero) and still have some residual/recycling value.

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]]> By: KINMTL http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/03/md-first-ride-2011-zero-motorcycles/comment-page-1/#comment-19811 KINMTL Fri, 01 Apr 2011 12:04:16 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=14274#comment-19811 Before throwing your opinion to the masses and making a fool of yourself, study the product, research it, don’t use someone else’s misinformed opinion or comment as the absolute truth. Having owned a motorcycle does not place you in a position to criticize product(s) you have never driven or taken the time to study or fully understand the engineering behind it. Zero is not making bikes for motorcyclists like us! 70% of their sales come from first time buyers. These people would never consider riding or owning a gas powered motorcycle. They only want to commute in and around town and not pollute the environment. I was the first to giggle when I saw a man driving a Prius, but they are making a choice to pollute less and we need to respect them! Some of you need to think before pushing the send button. Before throwing your opinion to the masses and making a fool of yourself, study the product, research it, don’t use someone else’s misinformed opinion or comment as the absolute truth. Having owned a motorcycle does not place you in a position to criticize product(s) you have never driven or taken the time to study or fully understand the engineering behind it. Zero is not making bikes for motorcyclists like us! 70% of their sales come from first time buyers. These people would never consider riding or owning a gas powered motorcycle. They only want to commute in and around town and not pollute the environment. I was the first to giggle when I saw a man driving a Prius, but they are making a choice to pollute less and we need to respect them! Some of you need to think before pushing the send button.

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]]> By: Sabu http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/03/md-first-ride-2011-zero-motorcycles/comment-page-1/#comment-19743 Sabu Thu, 31 Mar 2011 02:22:04 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=14274#comment-19743 You can get a small dual-sport that gets upwards of 75mpg and has similar or better performance for $5k. You can go about 200 miles on one tank and never worry about charging batteries. Sorry but as awesome as these bikes are, the numbers don't come close to adding up yet. Also, the silent operation is dangerous in urban environments where pedestrians and bicyclists, not to mention other drivers, can't hear you coming. You can get a small dual-sport that gets upwards of 75mpg and has similar or better performance for $5k. You can go about 200 miles on one tank and never worry about charging batteries. Sorry but as awesome as these bikes are, the numbers don’t come close to adding up yet. Also, the silent operation is dangerous in urban environments where pedestrians and bicyclists, not to mention other drivers, can’t hear you coming.

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]]> By: jim http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/03/md-first-ride-2011-zero-motorcycles/comment-page-1/#comment-19541 jim Fri, 25 Mar 2011 23:45:37 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=14274#comment-19541 How many times can you recharge the battery pack before it needs replacement, and how much is the replacement battery? How many times can you recharge the battery pack before it needs replacement, and how much is the replacement battery?

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]]> By: Gman http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/03/md-first-ride-2011-zero-motorcycles/comment-page-1/#comment-19493 Gman Thu, 24 Mar 2011 19:48:34 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=14274#comment-19493 Glad to see a real effort in this arena- they arent there yet but it seems like they are in the right direction. Remember the first honda- wasnt exactly the cutting edge, neither was the the first VW bug, but both seemed to succeed pretty well. A little more range and a affordable price is what is needed to make this the next basic transportation trend. It wont be for everyone- but then nothing ever is. I just hope they dont send production to China. Glad to see a real effort in this arena- they arent there yet but it seems like they are in the right direction. Remember the first honda- wasnt exactly the cutting edge, neither was the the first VW bug, but both seemed to succeed pretty well. A little more range and a affordable price is what is needed to make this the next basic transportation trend. It wont be for everyone- but then nothing ever is.
I just hope they dont send production to China.

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]]> By: kpaul http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/03/md-first-ride-2011-zero-motorcycles/comment-page-1/#comment-19486 kpaul Thu, 24 Mar 2011 17:55:44 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=14274#comment-19486 Cameron in an article said he had taken undergraduate classes in physics but he didn't pursue it further because he was weak in math. That is a major handicap in anyone that is serious about physics and engineering. Also anyone that wants to be taken seriously in those fields have strong math backgrounds. So I standby my remarks. Cameron in an article said he had taken undergraduate classes in physics but he didn’t pursue it further because he was weak in math. That is a major handicap in anyone that is serious about physics and engineering. Also anyone that wants to be taken seriously in those fields have strong math backgrounds. So I standby my remarks.

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