Comments on: MD Project: Honda CB350 Cafe Racer, Part II (Bike Reports) (News) http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/03/md-project-honda-cb350-cafe-racer-part-ii/ Motorcycle News, Editorials, Product Reviews and Bike Reviews Wed, 19 Jun 2013 05:46:54 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.2 By: jimbo http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/03/md-project-honda-cb350-cafe-racer-part-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-19874 jimbo Sat, 02 Apr 2011 18:20:35 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=14430#comment-19874 The joy, the bliss of the unknown variable. The joy, the bliss of the unknown variable.

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]]> By: jimbo http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/03/md-project-honda-cb350-cafe-racer-part-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-19853 jimbo Fri, 01 Apr 2011 15:13:15 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=14430#comment-19853 I'm age 57 and been in high end audio/music for about 45 years. There are physical/mechanical differences in the way a tube ("glass") functions vs. silicone ("sand"). The former makes voltage/less current, the latter makes current/less voltage. Classic electric guitar distortion arises from interaction between the tubes, the output transformer, and the speaker. I heard the best most costly ss distortion pedals at NAMM 2011. They are getting closer, but still, even with all the computing and modeling power available...I estimate the best ss distortion devices are still about 30-40% below tubes. Plus tube technology is so low priced now, it's difficult to justify ss considering the downgraded performance for this particular application only. Accurately predicting the tube's demise for electric guitar distortion is impossible. When blind tests make it impossible to discern a difference, then it's a done deed (not the case now). Till then, it's all hot air. My 2c. I’m age 57 and been in high end audio/music for about 45 years. There are physical/mechanical differences in the way a tube (“glass”) functions vs. silicone (“sand”). The former makes voltage/less current, the latter makes current/less voltage. Classic electric guitar distortion arises from interaction between the tubes, the output transformer, and the speaker. I heard the best most costly ss distortion pedals at NAMM 2011. They are getting closer, but still, even with all the computing and modeling power available…I estimate the best ss distortion devices are still about 30-40% below tubes. Plus tube technology is so low priced now, it’s difficult to justify ss considering the downgraded performance for this particular application only.

Accurately predicting the tube’s demise for electric guitar distortion is impossible. When blind tests make it impossible to discern a difference, then it’s a done deed (not the case now). Till then, it’s all hot air. My 2c.

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]]> By: Youth http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/03/md-project-honda-cb350-cafe-racer-part-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-19780 Youth Thu, 31 Mar 2011 20:43:58 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=14430#comment-19780 CB350 had some variations: CL350 scrambler. CB360 with 6 speed transmission. And CB350F four cylinder before CB400F came out. There are many interesting bikes out there from Big 4 from those era up to '80s. You can't go wrong with any CB/GS/KZ/XS bikes. Oh a person with a 305 Superhawk.. Funny thing is Honda tilted the engine on that bike... Somehow that style was gone until '86 when Yamaha came out with the Genesis concept on FZ750. Now all inline 4 supersports use this design. CB350 had some variations: CL350 scrambler. CB360 with 6 speed transmission. And CB350F four cylinder before CB400F came out. There are many interesting bikes out there from Big 4 from those era up to ’80s. You can’t go wrong with any CB/GS/KZ/XS bikes.

Oh a person with a 305 Superhawk.. Funny thing is Honda tilted the engine on that bike… Somehow that style was gone until ’86 when Yamaha came out with the Genesis concept on FZ750.

Now all inline 4 supersports use this design.

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]]> By: Ryan http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/03/md-project-honda-cb350-cafe-racer-part-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-19728 Ryan Wed, 30 Mar 2011 18:28:24 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=14430#comment-19728 Here is one i know of in philly. http://www.libertyvintage.com Here is one i know of in philly.
http://www.libertyvintage.com

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]]> By: Harry http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/03/md-project-honda-cb350-cafe-racer-part-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-19709 Harry Wed, 30 Mar 2011 11:30:29 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=14430#comment-19709 Steve, I'm modifying my Sportster into a Cafe Racer-style, too. What are the shops you mentioned? Harry Steve,

I’m modifying my Sportster into a Cafe Racer-style, too. What are the shops you mentioned?

Harry

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]]> By: burt http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/03/md-project-honda-cb350-cafe-racer-part-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-19697 burt Wed, 30 Mar 2011 03:31:42 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=14430#comment-19697 (Nobody would bow to anything of mine.) But your allegations about the amps was so intriguing that I had to google about. And you are absolutely correct. But at least one person believes that with another five years or so, tubes will finally be inferior. http://www.epinions.com/content_3726614660 Far out! :) (Nobody would bow to anything of mine.)

But your allegations about the amps was so intriguing
that I had to google about. And you are absolutely correct.
But at least one person believes that with another five
years or so, tubes will finally be inferior.

http://www.epinions.com/content_3726614660

Far out! :)

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]]> By: Gabe http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/03/md-project-honda-cb350-cafe-racer-part-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-19694 Gabe Wed, 30 Mar 2011 03:02:09 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=14430#comment-19694 Just making it a little lighter and a little stiffer...who knows how much better than stock it'll be! Just making it a little lighter and a little stiffer…who knows how much better than stock it’ll be!

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]]> By: Gabe http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/03/md-project-honda-cb350-cafe-racer-part-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-19693 Gabe Wed, 30 Mar 2011 02:44:32 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=14430#comment-19693 Going with 18-inters, a 2.15 front and 2.75 rear. Going with 18-inters, a 2.15 front and 2.75 rear.

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]]> By: bikerrandy http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/03/md-project-honda-cb350-cafe-racer-part-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-19679 bikerrandy Tue, 29 Mar 2011 20:35:53 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=14430#comment-19679 350 Hondas were not flexi-flyers like the R5 350 Yamahas were. I road raced both back in the day. My RD350 was the first bike I owned that felt like it was on rails. 350 Hondas were not flexi-flyers like the R5 350 Yamahas were. I road raced both back in the day. My RD350 was the first bike I owned that felt like it was on rails.

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]]> By: jimbo http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/03/md-project-honda-cb350-cafe-racer-part-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-19668 jimbo Tue, 29 Mar 2011 19:54:15 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=14430#comment-19668 Most readers would bow to your apparent authority on the subject bikes. I've ridden a CL350 and the CB350's predecessor, a super-low mileage 305cc Super Hawk only about one year old. I especially admired the Super Hawk for its smoothness and refinement, especially compared to the leaking British "heaps" of that era (indescribable vibration). After staring at the image of the project, I'd similarly predict most readers would agree to an obvious and huge difference in aesthetics between a late model Ninja 250 and the project bike. The former is a fun, efficient appliance, the latter conjures almost endless emotion and reverie of past peak riding moments and experience. I'm in the music industry. About a year ago my brother in law purchased a new Fender Blues Jr., $500 street price, considered a premium new amp value. I recently heard a '62 Sears Danelectro amp, OEM except for tubes, a replacement speaker, and two little capacitor upgrades. The Sears used value is $250-$300 on Ebay. In musical value the Sears amp blows the Fender away so bad it's not even funny. Esthetically, the Sears amp distances itself above the Fender even more than in musical merit, not even on the same planet. Plus the Sears amp is smaller and lighter. Most readers would bow to your apparent authority on the subject bikes. I’ve ridden a CL350 and the CB350′s predecessor, a super-low mileage 305cc Super Hawk only about one year old. I especially admired the Super Hawk for its smoothness and refinement, especially compared to the leaking British “heaps” of that era (indescribable vibration).

After staring at the image of the project, I’d similarly predict most readers would agree to an obvious and huge difference in aesthetics between a late model Ninja 250 and the project bike. The former is a fun, efficient appliance, the latter conjures almost endless emotion and reverie of past peak riding moments and experience.

I’m in the music industry. About a year ago my brother in law purchased a new Fender Blues Jr., $500 street price, considered a premium new amp value. I recently heard a ’62 Sears Danelectro amp, OEM except for tubes, a replacement speaker, and two little capacitor upgrades. The Sears used value is $250-$300 on Ebay. In musical value the Sears amp blows the Fender away so bad it’s not even funny. Esthetically, the Sears amp distances itself above the Fender even more than in musical merit, not even on the same planet. Plus the Sears amp is smaller and lighter.

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