Comments on: Qatar MotoGP Results (News) (Race Results) http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/03/qatar-motogp-results/ Motorcycle News, Editorials, Product Reviews and Bike Reviews Tue, 21 May 2013 12:54:18 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.2 By: Norm G. http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/03/qatar-motogp-results/comment-page-1/#comment-19477 Norm G. Thu, 24 Mar 2011 16:42:55 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=14240#comment-19477 re: "but if the others can’t find some extra oomph" and therein lies the rub. if we all think back, the grand quest for "oomph" out of 800cc's of swept volume has already occured. THAT arms race was initiated by the helicopter shot of the GP7 (armed with desmodromics) repeatedly laying waste to everybody down the straight at either the second or third round in that first year. remember, both honda AND yamaha went into "in-season testing mode" and initiated major (read, costly) top end overhauls of their designs converting them to F1 style pneumatic valves to ensure they could both increase revs and maximize V/E. as such, the R&D for all that has taken place and been spent over the past 3-4 seasons. it's part why the honda is the missile it is here in 2011. bottom line, there is no more "oomph". the only way they're going to get more "oomph" out of an 800 at this point i'm afraid (and stay within their engine limit)...? is to scrap 'em and set about the task of building 1000's. re: “but if the others can’t find some extra oomph”

and therein lies the rub. if we all think back, the grand quest for “oomph” out of 800cc’s of swept volume has already occured. THAT arms race was initiated by the helicopter shot of the GP7 (armed with desmodromics) repeatedly laying waste to everybody down the straight at either the second or third round in that first year. remember, both honda AND yamaha went into “in-season testing mode” and initiated major (read, costly) top end overhauls of their designs converting them to F1 style pneumatic valves to ensure they could both increase revs and maximize V/E. as such, the R&D for all that has taken place and been spent over the past 3-4 seasons. it’s part why the honda is the missile it is here in 2011. bottom line, there is no more “oomph”. the only way they’re going to get more “oomph” out of an 800 at this point i’m afraid (and stay within their engine limit)…? is to scrap ‘em and set about the task of building 1000′s.

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]]> By: Rick Hermanns http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/03/qatar-motogp-results/comment-page-1/#comment-19463 Rick Hermanns Thu, 24 Mar 2011 12:23:13 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=14240#comment-19463 Mickey, you forgot to mention Norton! They plan on fielding a MotoGP Team........someday! Mickey, you forgot to mention Norton! They plan on fielding a MotoGP Team……..someday!

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]]> By: Gary http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/03/qatar-motogp-results/comment-page-1/#comment-19455 Gary Thu, 24 Mar 2011 04:34:24 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=14240#comment-19455 "Spies barely eked out #1" That's true but he did it in his first season in WSBK on a brand new bike (crossplank R1) on pirelli tires he has never been on and he raced on tracks that he had never been on. Also he broke a record for the number of superpoles in 1 season. That's talent. Over-hyped? No. He has earned it. You just watch, he'll get better with each race. And wait til next year when the switch to 1000cc. He'll feel right at home and win the championship. “Spies barely eked out #1″ That’s true but he did it in his first season in WSBK on a brand new bike (crossplank R1) on pirelli tires he has never been on and he raced on tracks that he had never been on. Also he broke a record for the number of superpoles in 1 season. That’s talent. Over-hyped? No. He has earned it. You just watch, he’ll get better with each race. And wait til next year when the switch to 1000cc. He’ll feel right at home and win the championship.

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]]> By: Ruefus http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/03/qatar-motogp-results/comment-page-1/#comment-19444 Ruefus Wed, 23 Mar 2011 22:40:37 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=14240#comment-19444 This is March. The season ends in what...October? Lots and lots and LOTS of things can happen. Formula One is a prime example, many cars that start out competitive early on - even with top teams - become merely competitive mid-season. No one will sit still. The question is - can Honda develop the bike fast enough to remain in front. If history is any indication the answer is not likely. But will it remain the class of the field long enough? With the number of Hondas on the grid, probably. But it is NOT a foregone conclusion Stoner will win the title and that Ducati will be a mid-packer. This is March. The season ends in what…October?

Lots and lots and LOTS of things can happen. Formula One is a prime example, many cars that start out competitive early on – even with top teams – become merely competitive mid-season.

No one will sit still. The question is – can Honda develop the bike fast enough to remain in front.

If history is any indication the answer is not likely. But will it remain the class of the field long enough? With the number of Hondas on the grid, probably. But it is NOT a foregone conclusion Stoner will win the title and that Ducati will be a mid-packer.

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]]> By: brinskee http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/03/qatar-motogp-results/comment-page-1/#comment-19422 brinskee Wed, 23 Mar 2011 19:08:39 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=14240#comment-19422 Okay, keep your head in the clouds, and believe what you like. I can go to my doctor and be told I'm fit - or inversely not fit - for just about anything, with some persuasion. That's no proof either! Sorry you don't care for my dish. At least I'm serving something... Okay, keep your head in the clouds, and believe what you like. I can go to my doctor and be told I’m fit – or inversely not fit – for just about anything, with some persuasion. That’s no proof either!

Sorry you don’t care for my dish. At least I’m serving something…

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]]> By: Washington Hogwallop http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/03/qatar-motogp-results/comment-page-1/#comment-19399 Washington Hogwallop Wed, 23 Mar 2011 15:04:19 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=14240#comment-19399 Pedrosa did take care of it as far as was reasonable (a medical specialist OKed it and he was fine in tests, but it flared up in race conditions that are impossible to reproduce in the pre-season). Is Ducati pissed off at Rossi? After all, he finished far behind Pedrosa, on an injury that's even older. So, the dish your serving is stale stuff from people that don't like Pedrosa. Almost all the rider have their detractors -- I'd suggest taking rumors with a big grain of salt, especially when they don't make sense. Pedrosa did take care of it as far as was reasonable (a medical specialist OKed it and he was fine in tests, but it flared up in race conditions that are impossible to reproduce in the pre-season). Is Ducati pissed off at Rossi? After all, he finished far behind Pedrosa, on an injury that’s even older.

So, the dish your serving is stale stuff from people that don’t like Pedrosa. Almost all the rider have their detractors — I’d suggest taking rumors with a big grain of salt, especially when they don’t make sense.

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]]> By: brinskee http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/03/qatar-motogp-results/comment-page-1/#comment-19372 brinskee Wed, 23 Mar 2011 10:54:32 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=14240#comment-19372 No axe to grind! All just for entertainment value. :) I can understand Honda's furiosity (furiousness?) at Dani - he was supposed to have taken care of it. If he was in tears post-race, and this is the start of the season, do you really think soft tissue damage will get better with more stress? I understand how bones work (I broke my femur) and how they can heal with time, but soft tissue damage needs rest... Of course Rossi said the change to (I meant to say) 800CC was okay. He needed a new challenge! hahaha And the wheel keeps turning... And thanks Norm G.! I will be at Laguna Seca for sure (I live in San Francisco) and possibly Silverstone this season. I'll keep ya posted with updates! No axe to grind! All just for entertainment value. :)

I can understand Honda’s furiosity (furiousness?) at Dani – he was supposed to have taken care of it. If he was in tears post-race, and this is the start of the season, do you really think soft tissue damage will get better with more stress? I understand how bones work (I broke my femur) and how they can heal with time, but soft tissue damage needs rest…

Of course Rossi said the change to (I meant to say) 800CC was okay. He needed a new challenge! hahaha

And the wheel keeps turning…

And thanks Norm G.! I will be at Laguna Seca for sure (I live in San Francisco) and possibly Silverstone this season. I’ll keep ya posted with updates!

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]]> By: jimbo http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/03/qatar-motogp-results/comment-page-1/#comment-19356 jimbo Wed, 23 Mar 2011 02:09:58 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=14240#comment-19356 "Just read an article released by Yamaha/Spies about the race. Spies said his start was fine but he got bumped by Rossi or ? and knocked off line and then stuck behind slower riders and couldn’t get around quick enough..." Source is Yamaha (Lorenzo-Spies Fan HQ), so take the bias into account. "...stuck behind slower riders and couldn't get around quick enough..." translation: "Riders in front of Spies had more skill and performance so all Spies could do was take riding lessons behind them." “Just read an article released by Yamaha/Spies about the race. Spies said his start was fine but he got bumped by Rossi or ? and knocked off line and then stuck behind slower riders and couldn’t get around quick enough…”

Source is Yamaha (Lorenzo-Spies Fan HQ), so take the bias into account. “…stuck behind slower riders and couldn’t get around quick enough…” translation: “Riders in front of Spies had more skill and performance so all Spies could do was take riding lessons behind them.”

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]]> By: monsterduc1000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/03/qatar-motogp-results/comment-page-1/#comment-19342 monsterduc1000 Tue, 22 Mar 2011 23:10:30 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=14240#comment-19342 Not honda, Stoner. Not wrapped up, but if the others can't find some extra oomph, he is going to be top 2 (and most likely top 1) every race barring crash, injury or mechanical failure; of which these things unfortunately have a big bearing on the final outcome. Stoner was always a threat on a lesser machine and now that he has got this bad boy, look out. Not honda, Stoner. Not wrapped up, but if the others can’t find some extra oomph, he is going to be top 2 (and most likely top 1) every race barring crash, injury or mechanical failure; of which these things unfortunately have a big bearing on the final outcome.

Stoner was always a threat on a lesser machine and now that he has got this bad boy, look out.

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]]> By: jimbo http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/03/qatar-motogp-results/comment-page-1/#comment-19340 jimbo Tue, 22 Mar 2011 22:08:00 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=14240#comment-19340 LOL..."Karma" for FLAT OUT REAR-END CRASHING HIS THEN-HONDA TEAM MATE HAYDN SEVERAL YEARS AGO, almost costing Haydn the championship. LOL…”Karma” for FLAT OUT REAR-END CRASHING HIS THEN-HONDA TEAM MATE HAYDN SEVERAL YEARS AGO, almost costing Haydn the championship.

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