Comments on: Tire Woes Plague 2011 Daytona 200, But Still a Great Race (News) (Race Results) http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/03/tires-woes-plague-2011-daytona-200-but-still-a-great-race/ Motorcycle News, Editorials, Product Reviews and Bike Reviews Sat, 25 May 2013 02:27:32 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.2 By: William of Suches http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/03/tires-woes-plague-2011-daytona-200-but-still-a-great-race/comment-page-1/#comment-19187 William of Suches Fri, 18 Mar 2011 22:06:46 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=14128#comment-19187 The winner of the Daytona "200" scored that result using TWO DIFFERENT ENGINES! Will this be the motorsports equivilent of the Barry Bonds* asterisk for Ducati in the record books? I've been a racing fan all my life... I don't recall ANY motor race where engine replacement is even an option. Transmissions, bodywork, drivers, anything else attached, but ENGINES?! So if Formula One deep pockets develop a way to swap motors in a ten-second pit stop, that should be allowed? To heII with rev limits or missed shifts, just flog that thang, we'll swap it if it blows! The winner of the Daytona “200″ scored that result using TWO DIFFERENT ENGINES! Will this be the motorsports equivilent of the Barry Bonds* asterisk for Ducati in the record books?

I’ve been a racing fan all my life… I don’t recall ANY motor race where engine replacement is even an option. Transmissions, bodywork, drivers, anything else attached, but ENGINES?! So if Formula One deep pockets develop a way to swap motors in a ten-second pit stop, that should be allowed? To heII with rev limits or missed shifts, just flog that thang, we’ll swap it if it blows!

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]]> By: Dude http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/03/tires-woes-plague-2011-daytona-200-but-still-a-great-race/comment-page-1/#comment-19090 Dude Wed, 16 Mar 2011 21:24:52 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=14128#comment-19090 A great race...come on. It used to be. Daytona , in recent years, has had some of the worst officiating. Pace cars pulling in front of riders going 160MPH, having the pace car with only one man in it, etc. The AMA and DMG are doing a horrible job. If Mid-Ohio last year is any indication, road racing is dead in the U.S. The names of the classes are stupid too. What is a Daytona Sportbike anyway? A great race…come on. It used to be. Daytona , in recent years, has had some of the worst officiating. Pace cars pulling in front of riders going 160MPH, having the pace car with only one man in it, etc. The AMA and DMG are doing a horrible job. If Mid-Ohio last year is any indication, road racing is dead in the U.S. The names of the classes are stupid too. What is a Daytona Sportbike anyway?

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]]> By: Norm G. http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/03/tires-woes-plague-2011-daytona-200-but-still-a-great-race/comment-page-1/#comment-19053 Norm G. Wed, 16 Mar 2011 11:17:05 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=14128#comment-19053 yeah, they probably could have. i think in the pandemonium, it probably fell thru the cracks...? and if geico suzuki didn't think to protest at that moment...? then i could see it getting overlooked. then there's the question, even if he WAS afforded such an opportunity, would he have even taken it...? sure, he looked fine during the initial interview, but how was he feeling after having sat idle for say 30 mins...? adrenaline's a mo-fo. :) that was a HUGE get off. good thing the dunlop boffins brought sorted kit or we might not have had any concluding race at all. anybody recall the michelin problem in F1 at indianapolis...? from the furor, you'd a thunk a michelin exec smacked someone's baby and stole their lollipop...? :) racing is risk. debacles happen. yeah, they probably could have. i think in the pandemonium, it probably fell thru the cracks…? and if geico suzuki didn’t think to protest at that moment…? then i could see it getting overlooked. then there’s the question, even if he WAS afforded such an opportunity, would he have even taken it…? sure, he looked fine during the initial interview, but how was he feeling after having sat idle for say 30 mins…? adrenaline’s a mo-fo. :) that was a HUGE get off. good thing the dunlop boffins brought sorted kit or we might not have had any concluding race at all. anybody recall the michelin problem in F1 at indianapolis…? from the furor, you’d a thunk a michelin exec smacked someone’s baby and stole their lollipop…? :) racing is risk. debacles happen.

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]]> By: marko http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/03/tires-woes-plague-2011-daytona-200-but-still-a-great-race/comment-page-1/#comment-19038 marko Wed, 16 Mar 2011 02:06:28 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=14128#comment-19038 Congrats to Disalvo but can't believe he was allowed to change engines in the middle of a race. Congrats to Disalvo but can’t believe he was allowed to change engines in the middle of a race.

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]]> By: stone996e http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/03/tires-woes-plague-2011-daytona-200-but-still-a-great-race/comment-page-1/#comment-19034 stone996e Tue, 15 Mar 2011 23:20:31 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=14128#comment-19034 Buell has never won the Daytona 200. Ever. Buell has never won the Daytona 200. Ever.

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]]> By: Philip http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/03/tires-woes-plague-2011-daytona-200-but-still-a-great-race/comment-page-1/#comment-19032 Philip Tue, 15 Mar 2011 22:27:53 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=14128#comment-19032 I don't get it either. Anyone within 100 miles has no excuse...get out there and support our sport! I don’t get it either. Anyone within 100 miles has no excuse…get out there and support our sport!

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]]> By: Norm G. http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/03/tires-woes-plague-2011-daytona-200-but-still-a-great-race/comment-page-1/#comment-19028 Norm G. Tue, 15 Mar 2011 20:59:34 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=14128#comment-19028 christow does have a point regarding eslick. danny would've most certainly not "yardsale'd" off the banking so dramatically if he hadn't been force fed a shite front tire. :( a front tire that was SOOO bad, dunlop themselves called for a red flag to a wholesale swap the entire grid (when's the last time that happened?). the comparison further illustrates the cruel mistress that is lady luck. whereas she frowned on danny... yup, she clearly smiled on jason. if not for maybe a 1/2 hr (good point), they both would've walked outta daytona co-miserating with zero points. i think the engine failure was a fluke. the EVO is still basically the same engine 'cept for updated heads (standard ducati tuning fare) that's been campaining the DSB class for a couple of years now. it's definitely not a fancy R homologation or anything. while the 848's do/did have some weaknesses on the bottom end, iirc they've racked up no more DNF's (mechanical) than any other brand....? somebody check my math. christow does have a point regarding eslick. danny would’ve most certainly not “yardsale’d” off the banking so dramatically if he hadn’t been force fed a shite front tire. :( a front tire that was SOOO bad, dunlop themselves called for a red flag to a wholesale swap the entire grid (when’s the last time that happened?). the comparison further illustrates the cruel mistress that is lady luck. whereas she frowned on danny… yup, she clearly smiled on jason. if not for maybe a 1/2 hr (good point), they both would’ve walked outta daytona co-miserating with zero points. i think the engine failure was a fluke. the EVO is still basically the same engine ‘cept for updated heads (standard ducati tuning fare) that’s been campaining the DSB class for a couple of years now. it’s definitely not a fancy R homologation or anything. while the 848′s do/did have some weaknesses on the bottom end, iirc they’ve racked up no more DNF’s (mechanical) than any other brand….? somebody check my math.

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]]> By: christow http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/03/tires-woes-plague-2011-daytona-200-but-still-a-great-race/comment-page-1/#comment-19027 christow Tue, 15 Mar 2011 20:24:20 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=14128#comment-19027 Honestly, I think the DMG/AMA can do whatever they want, so yes, they could have forgotten about those laps. As far as how does DMG/AMA favor ducati-just look at this class-848cc vs 600cc. Also, why was the red flag so long? Conspiracy theorists might think that Ducati was more than just lucky. That said, I enjoyed the racing and i am looking forward to going to Miller this year. Honestly, I think the DMG/AMA can do whatever they want, so yes, they could have forgotten about those laps. As far as how does DMG/AMA favor ducati-just look at this class-848cc vs 600cc. Also, why was the red flag so long? Conspiracy theorists might think that Ducati was more than just lucky. That said, I enjoyed the racing and i am looking forward to going to Miller this year.

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]]> By: Ian James http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/03/tires-woes-plague-2011-daytona-200-but-still-a-great-race/comment-page-1/#comment-19026 Ian James Tue, 15 Mar 2011 20:08:55 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=14128#comment-19026 Can you remember when top rides and machines came to Daytona and raced? What a pathetic shambes it has become over the years. To the current riders, good luck guys the racing season starts soon. Can you remember when top rides and machines came to Daytona and raced? What a pathetic shambes it has become over the years.

To the current riders, good luck guys the racing season starts soon.

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]]> By: Chris http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/03/tires-woes-plague-2011-daytona-200-but-still-a-great-race/comment-page-1/#comment-19025 Chris Tue, 15 Mar 2011 19:33:37 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=14128#comment-19025 How do you put Eslick back on the lead lap? It took 2 or 3 laps before they decided to mandate a front tire change for the field.... Should they just "forget" about those completed laps? DiSalvo (and Ducati) got lucky. Very lucky. IF the red flag "only" lasted 2 hours instead of 2 1/2, he wouldn't have made the restart. They wouldn't have had enough time for the engine change. And Ducati hasn't done jack in the AMA for years... You probably have to go back to the 90s for Ducati to have been near the front or challenged for wins, so I am not sure the AMA has done to try and favor them. ?? How do you put Eslick back on the lead lap? It took 2 or 3 laps before they decided to mandate a front tire change for the field…. Should they just “forget” about those completed laps?

DiSalvo (and Ducati) got lucky. Very lucky. IF the red flag “only” lasted 2 hours instead of 2 1/2, he wouldn’t have made the restart. They wouldn’t have had enough time for the engine change. And Ducati hasn’t done jack in the AMA for years… You probably have to go back to the 90s for Ducati to have been near the front or challenged for wins, so I am not sure the AMA has done to try and favor them. ??

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