Comments on: 2012 Kawasaki Motocrossers Feature New Tech – Dual Injectors and Launch Control (Bike Reports) (News) http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/05/2012-kawasaki-motocrossers-feature-new-tech-dual-injectors-and-launch-control/ Motorcycle News, Editorials, Product Reviews and Bike Reviews Thu, 20 Jun 2013 07:30:17 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.2 By: Dan http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/05/2012-kawasaki-motocrossers-feature-new-tech-dual-injectors-and-launch-control/comment-page-1/#comment-22440 Dan Wed, 25 May 2011 18:48:50 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=15372#comment-22440 This is ridiculous! A few years back the AMA wouldn't let Aprilia race it's two cylinder because they (the AMA) didn't want costs to increase. Four strokes cost 10 times as much as two strokes so why did the AMA even go with them? I love to ride(two strokes) but four stroke MXers are killing amateur racing. Ask any track owner about the gate count. I can only imagine it getting worse with all the electronic gizmos. This is ridiculous! A few years back the AMA wouldn’t let Aprilia race it’s two cylinder because they (the AMA) didn’t want costs to increase. Four strokes cost 10 times as much as two strokes so why did the AMA even go with them? I love to ride(two strokes) but four stroke MXers are killing amateur racing. Ask any track owner about the gate count. I can only imagine it getting worse with all the electronic gizmos.

]]> By: MikeD http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/05/2012-kawasaki-motocrossers-feature-new-tech-dual-injectors-and-launch-control/comment-page-1/#comment-22299 MikeD Thu, 19 May 2011 22:01:34 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=15372#comment-22299 I can relate to Chris's comment. I can only have one bike...so, if i were to buy this i would like to use it as much as possible (streets) when im away from the trails in order to justify its MSRP enough, but thats just me. To each its own, im sure some of us here wouldn't mind riding to the trails just cause we don't have the pockets to own a decent trailer and hauling truck(me again). " why in the world would I(harryfxr) do anything but to haul it out there " U said it...U. Not Chris...or me for that matter, choices choices. Different folks, different strokes. I can relate to Chris’s comment.
I can only have one bike…so, if i were to buy this i would like to use it as much as possible (streets) when im away from the trails in order to justify its MSRP enough, but thats just me.
To each its own, im sure some of us here wouldn’t mind riding to the trails just cause we don’t have the pockets to own a decent trailer and hauling truck(me again).

” why in the world would I(harryfxr) do anything but to haul it out there ”

U said it…U. Not Chris…or me for that matter, choices choices.

Different folks, different strokes.

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]]> By: harryfxr http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/05/2012-kawasaki-motocrossers-feature-new-tech-dual-injectors-and-launch-control/comment-page-1/#comment-22297 harryfxr Thu, 19 May 2011 20:16:31 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=15372#comment-22297 Your comparing apples and oranges or 2-stroke with 4 stroke which is really of little value. Not to mention the fact that the press release states that fuel mapping is, "easily selectable via DFI wire coupler caps, no computer necessary". The PC interface is optional and mostly for data capture so no archaic software emulators necessary 30 years hence. Besides I'm sure that Sudco Int'l the same place where you can still get carb parts for your CR will have injectors and much more efficient Linux based software packages available for these vintage bikes. Your comparing apples and oranges or 2-stroke with 4 stroke which is really of little value. Not to mention the fact that the press release states that fuel mapping is, “easily selectable via DFI wire coupler caps, no computer necessary”. The PC interface is optional and mostly for data capture so no archaic software emulators necessary 30 years hence. Besides I’m sure that Sudco Int’l the same place where you can still get carb parts for your CR will have injectors and much more efficient Linux based software packages available for these vintage bikes.

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]]> By: harryfxr http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/05/2012-kawasaki-motocrossers-feature-new-tech-dual-injectors-and-launch-control/comment-page-1/#comment-22295 harryfxr Thu, 19 May 2011 20:01:40 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=15372#comment-22295 What has trailering a bike got to do with how much you're willing to pay for it? Would you ride either one of these bikes to your local off rode riding spot if they were street legal. Where I live it's about 100 miles of mostly freeway to get to the nearest OHV area so why in world would I do anything but haul it out there. What has trailering a bike got to do with how much you’re willing to pay for it? Would you ride either one of these bikes to your local off rode riding spot if they were street legal. Where I live it’s about 100 miles of mostly freeway to get to the nearest OHV area so why in world would I do anything but haul it out there.

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]]> By: les http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/05/2012-kawasaki-motocrossers-feature-new-tech-dual-injectors-and-launch-control/comment-page-1/#comment-22284 les Thu, 19 May 2011 12:24:15 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=15372#comment-22284 Makes me think of what happens when this (or other modern MX bikes) are older. I have a 1981 cr125 (among many other bikes). First year of mono shock, last year of elsinore motor, a classic :) It's 31 years old and it just needs a kick to start. Now, imagine this bike at 30 years old...you'd have software issues. You'd have to find archaic emulators to run ancient windoze op systems to tune the fueling. This makes me LOL for some reason. Just an observation I found amusing. Makes me think of what happens when this (or other modern MX bikes) are older.

I have a 1981 cr125 (among many other bikes). First year of mono shock, last year of elsinore motor, a classic :) It’s 31 years old and it just needs a kick to start.

Now, imagine this bike at 30 years old…you’d have software issues. You’d have to find archaic emulators to run ancient windoze op systems to tune the fueling. This makes me LOL for some reason.

Just an observation I found amusing.

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]]> By: MGNorge http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/05/2012-kawasaki-motocrossers-feature-new-tech-dual-injectors-and-launch-control/comment-page-1/#comment-22280 MGNorge Thu, 19 May 2011 10:04:54 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=15372#comment-22280 Well, there you go then! See what happens when you skim too fast through an article! I was skimming through for the meat of the story and missed that. Well, there you go then! See what happens when you skim too fast through an article! I was skimming through for the meat of the story and missed that.

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]]> By: nome http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/05/2012-kawasaki-motocrossers-feature-new-tech-dual-injectors-and-launch-control/comment-page-1/#comment-22279 nome Thu, 19 May 2011 06:49:13 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=15372#comment-22279 WR250R engine isn't the same as the YZ250F engine (which is btw the most ancient MX engine today, including two-strokes and niche manufactures), not on mechanics and certainly not in performance. As to why Kawasaki or any other Japanese manufacturer doesn't offer a (barely) street-legal version of its 450 enduro, who know, maybe they don't want to make money? KTM, Husqvarna and other make them, however, and with greater performance to boot! WR250R engine isn’t the same as the YZ250F engine (which is btw the most ancient MX engine today, including two-strokes and niche manufactures), not on mechanics and certainly not in performance.

As to why Kawasaki or any other Japanese manufacturer doesn’t offer a (barely) street-legal version of its 450 enduro, who know, maybe they don’t want to make money? KTM, Husqvarna and other make them, however, and with greater performance to boot!

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]]> By: Chris http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/05/2012-kawasaki-motocrossers-feature-new-tech-dual-injectors-and-launch-control/comment-page-1/#comment-22277 Chris Thu, 19 May 2011 01:26:38 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=15372#comment-22277 Amazing tech. But.... 8K+ for the 450 and over 7K for the 250... Seems like a lot of money for something I'd have to trailer to be able to ride... Amazing tech. But…. 8K+ for the 450 and over 7K for the 250… Seems like a lot of money for something I’d have to trailer to be able to ride…

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]]> By: Wilson R http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/05/2012-kawasaki-motocrossers-feature-new-tech-dual-injectors-and-launch-control/comment-page-1/#comment-22276 Wilson R Wed, 18 May 2011 22:50:09 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=15372#comment-22276 Now yer' talk'in! Now yer’ talk’in!

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]]> By: MikeD http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/05/2012-kawasaki-motocrossers-feature-new-tech-dual-injectors-and-launch-control/comment-page-1/#comment-22273 MikeD Wed, 18 May 2011 22:22:22 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=15372#comment-22273 A Crazy thought: Hey Kawasaki, how about adding this new "Launch Control" thingy to the BigBore ZX-14 AND others ? And the fancy "many maps, one ECU" with the little pigtail conecctors for the other street bikes in your line up ? It could a problem with EPA i think...but...LOL. A Crazy thought:

Hey Kawasaki, how about adding this new “Launch Control” thingy to the BigBore ZX-14 AND others ?

And the fancy “many maps, one ECU” with the little pigtail conecctors for the other street bikes in your line up ? It could a problem with EPA i think…but…LOL.

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