Comments on: Monza WSB Results (News) (Race Results) http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/05/monza-wsb-results/ Motorcycle News, Editorials, Product Reviews and Bike Reviews Thu, 23 May 2013 20:29:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.2 By: Norm G. http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/05/monza-wsb-results/comment-page-1/#comment-21984 Norm G. Wed, 11 May 2011 00:10:42 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=15180#comment-21984 re: "The problem with this solution is that the next sharp corner the get is also a chicane." no worries, by virtue of the distance to della roggia and the difference in bike performances, the grid will have had time to spread out and be line astern. it's no different than how nobody has a problem going into T1 on lap 2, 3, 4, etc. keep in mind, these guys are skilled professionals and this IS racing. by definition, it's never going be ZERO risk. evidenced this by the supersport crash on the final lap of all things in parabolica (ie. a big wide turn that's so NOT a chicane). if it were easy...? hell everybody'd be doin' it. re: “The problem with this solution is that the next sharp corner the get is also a chicane.”

no worries, by virtue of the distance to della roggia and the difference in bike performances, the grid will have had time to spread out and be line astern. it’s no different than how nobody has a problem going into T1 on lap 2, 3, 4, etc. keep in mind, these guys are skilled professionals and this IS racing. by definition, it’s never going be ZERO risk. evidenced this by the supersport crash on the final lap of all things in parabolica (ie. a big wide turn that’s so NOT a chicane). if it were easy…? hell everybody’d be doin’ it.

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]]> By: Pofadder http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/05/monza-wsb-results/comment-page-1/#comment-21948 Pofadder Tue, 10 May 2011 09:32:33 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=15180#comment-21948 The problem with this solution is that the next sharp corner the get is also a chicane. So you are not solving the problem by cutting the first one and on top of that they will be arriving at the second chicane much faster. I recall a masive accident here in F1 a few years back when David Coulthard came flying upside down through the smoke and dirt. Spectacular to watch, but I think lots of dirty underwear. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aa3swqSvPJM&feature=related The problem with this solution is that the next sharp corner the get is also a chicane. So you are not solving the problem by cutting the first one and on top of that they will be arriving at the second chicane much faster. I recall a masive accident here in F1 a few years back when David Coulthard came flying upside down through the smoke and dirt. Spectacular to watch, but I think lots of dirty underwear. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aa3swqSvPJM&feature=related

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]]> By: Trpldog http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/05/monza-wsb-results/comment-page-1/#comment-21926 Trpldog Mon, 09 May 2011 22:14:37 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=15180#comment-21926 I was too quick on the button - talking about Biaggi. I was too quick on the button – talking about Biaggi.

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]]> By: Trpldog http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/05/monza-wsb-results/comment-page-1/#comment-21925 Trpldog Mon, 09 May 2011 22:13:00 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=15180#comment-21925 They could have compared his prior lap time to the "runoff" lap and figured out a more fair penalty. That kinda stunk. They could have compared his prior lap time to the “runoff” lap and figured out a more fair penalty. That kinda stunk.

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]]> By: Norm G. http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/05/monza-wsb-results/comment-page-1/#comment-21913 Norm G. Mon, 09 May 2011 19:23:28 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=15180#comment-21913 re: "As I was watching this on TV, I was wondering if Biaggi had slowed enough for long enough after rolling back on the track to make sure he hadn’t gained any time. I guess not." in baseball, that's what they call "tie goes to the runner". they weren't sure. but there seems to be some stink out of europe that they are just trying to bang biaggi for not showing up to mandatory rider meeting held earlier in the weekend. not a fan of biaggi, but right now i dislike the stewards more. re: “As I was watching this on TV, I was wondering if Biaggi had slowed enough for long enough after rolling back on the track to make sure he hadn’t gained any time.
I guess not.”

in baseball, that’s what they call “tie goes to the runner”. they weren’t sure. but there seems to be some stink out of europe that they are just trying to bang biaggi for not showing up to mandatory rider meeting held earlier in the weekend. not a fan of biaggi, but right now i dislike the stewards more.

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]]> By: Norm G. http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/05/monza-wsb-results/comment-page-1/#comment-21912 Norm G. Mon, 09 May 2011 19:17:44 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=15180#comment-21912 re: "Plain and simple: This track should be taken off the WSBK schedule." whoa whoa whoa... let's not lose our heads here... we can fix this. someone suggested a SX style start where they all legally cut the chicane and go straight into curva grande, but ONLY at the start. from L2 on, they use the chicane. by the powers invested in me, i give this my blessing. re: “Plain and simple: This track should be taken off the WSBK schedule.”

whoa whoa whoa… let’s not lose our heads here… we can fix this. someone suggested a SX style start where they all legally cut the chicane and go straight into curva grande, but ONLY at the start. from L2 on, they use the chicane. by the powers invested in me, i give this my blessing.

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]]> By: Norm G. http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/05/monza-wsb-results/comment-page-1/#comment-21911 Norm G. Mon, 09 May 2011 19:12:18 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=15180#comment-21911 technically, the stewards are saying he crossed a white dividing line early when he rejoined the track (think F1 pit exit) and THAT'S what got him the ride thru. i have yet to see this "verboten" white line in any of the replays and it all smells like a huge load to me...? >:( technically, the stewards are saying he crossed a white dividing line early when he rejoined the track (think F1 pit exit) and THAT’S what got him the ride thru. i have yet to see this “verboten” white line in any of the replays and it all smells like a huge load to me…? >:(

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]]> By: GixxerGary http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/05/monza-wsb-results/comment-page-1/#comment-21901 GixxerGary Mon, 09 May 2011 14:58:04 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=15180#comment-21901 Plain and simple: This track should be taken off the WSBK schedule. Monza is not safe for the racers. A tight chicane just after the start line is STUPID AND UNSAFE causing many crashes and injuries, check it's history. I'm not a Biaggi fan but he was robbed of the race 2 win. A 2 second time penalty maybe, but a pit drive through was way too harsh. Instead of Monza, WSBK should go to Barber then on to Miller. That way we get 2 U.S. rounds, 1 in the east, 1 in the west. Plain and simple: This track should be taken off the WSBK schedule. Monza is not safe for the racers. A tight chicane just after the start line is STUPID AND UNSAFE causing many crashes and injuries, check it’s history. I’m not a Biaggi fan but he was robbed of the race 2 win. A 2 second time penalty maybe, but a pit drive through was way too harsh. Instead of Monza, WSBK should go to Barber then on to Miller. That way we get 2 U.S. rounds, 1 in the east, 1 in the west.

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]]> By: Tom R http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/05/monza-wsb-results/comment-page-1/#comment-21900 Tom R Mon, 09 May 2011 12:43:57 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=15180#comment-21900 The nerve of that guy, running of off the pavement and onto slippery dirt/grass, keeping it upright, and being able to return to the track! He was obviously trying to cheat his way into a greater lead! The nerve of that guy, running of off the pavement and onto slippery dirt/grass, keeping it upright, and being able to return to the track! He was obviously trying to cheat his way into a greater lead!

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]]> By: John A. Kuzmenko http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/05/monza-wsb-results/comment-page-1/#comment-21897 John A. Kuzmenko Mon, 09 May 2011 08:38:50 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=15180#comment-21897 I'm guessing that the guys in charge of race direction determined he had increased his lead over second place after the incident. As I was watching this on TV, I was wondering if Biaggi had slowed enough for long enough after rolling back on the track to make sure he hadn't gained any time. I guess not. The TV announcers were complaining mightily. I’m guessing that the guys in charge of race direction determined he had increased his lead over second place after the incident.

As I was watching this on TV, I was wondering if Biaggi had slowed enough for long enough after rolling back on the track to make sure he hadn’t gained any time.
I guess not.
The TV announcers were complaining mightily.

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