Comments on: Ben Spies Getting In Tune With His Factory Ride (News) http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/06/ben-spies-getting-in-tune-with-his-factory-ride/ Motorcycle News, Editorials, Product Reviews and Bike Reviews Wed, 19 Jun 2013 17:30:09 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.2 By: Voice of Denial http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/06/ben-spies-getting-in-tune-with-his-factory-ride/comment-page-1/#comment-23309 Voice of Denial Thu, 09 Jun 2011 18:37:38 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=15769#comment-23309 as anybody knows, i rate him fully. you're in denial that motogp is a business first... a form of entertainment second. the sooner you wake up to these realities, the better off you'll be (in fact the better off we'll ALL be). no worries, we'll get you sorted. yup, we'll get you sorted and turn you into an asset to motorcycling rather than a continued hinderance. as anybody knows, i rate him fully. you’re in denial that motogp is a business first… a form of entertainment second. the sooner you wake up to these realities, the better off you’ll be (in fact the better off we’ll ALL be). no worries, we’ll get you sorted. yup, we’ll get you sorted and turn you into an asset to motorcycling rather than a continued hinderance.

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]]> By: Voice of Reaosn http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/06/ben-spies-getting-in-tune-with-his-factory-ride/comment-page-1/#comment-23292 Voice of Reaosn Thu, 09 Jun 2011 14:28:40 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=15769#comment-23292 Yes, he's American, yes he's accomplished, and yes he's talented. It's unfortunate that you can't get past your your anti-american hate to respect him as a racer. Yes, he’s American, yes he’s accomplished, and yes he’s talented. It’s unfortunate that you can’t get past your your anti-american hate to respect him as a racer.

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]]> By: Voice of Reaosn http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/06/ben-spies-getting-in-tune-with-his-factory-ride/comment-page-1/#comment-23290 Voice of Reaosn Thu, 09 Jun 2011 14:19:14 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=15769#comment-23290 Why are you so angry? Why are you so angry?

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]]> By: Norm G. http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/06/ben-spies-getting-in-tune-with-his-factory-ride/comment-page-1/#comment-23286 Norm G. Thu, 09 Jun 2011 13:39:56 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=15769#comment-23286 re: "If he doesn’t out qualify Lorenzo and become a regular podium finisher, I’ll be astonished." set your face for STUNNED...! re: “If he doesn’t out qualify Lorenzo and become a regular podium finisher, I’ll be astonished.”

set your face for STUNNED…!

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]]> By: Norm G. http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/06/ben-spies-getting-in-tune-with-his-factory-ride/comment-page-1/#comment-23285 Norm G. Thu, 09 Jun 2011 13:36:41 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=15769#comment-23285 re: "Spies is the real deal and he’s proven it." i completely agree. unfortunately both his recent accomplishments AND our personal opinions of said accomplishments are all TRUMPED by his passport. there's a "glass ceiling" in MotoGP and his face is pressed firmly up against it. :( the glory days of king kenny, schwantz, spencer, rainey, kocinski, mammola, etc. where sponsorship dollars flowed like water down the mighty mississipi are looooonnng gone. [colonel troutman voice]"they're over johnny... THEY'RE OVER!"[/colonel troutman voice]. his only saving grace sits way out on the horizon and involves the successful construction of "Circuito de Estados Unidos"... and even then it's 50/50 given the "fair-weather" nature of the american fan-base. again, i can't help but point out (broken record) that the ability to change all this rests with US... re: “Spies is the real deal and he’s proven it.”

i completely agree. unfortunately both his recent accomplishments AND our personal opinions of said accomplishments are all TRUMPED by his passport. there’s a “glass ceiling” in MotoGP and his face is pressed firmly up against it. :(

the glory days of king kenny, schwantz, spencer, rainey, kocinski, mammola, etc. where sponsorship dollars flowed like water down the mighty mississipi are looooonnng gone. [colonel troutman voice]“they’re over johnny… THEY’RE OVER!”[/colonel troutman voice].

his only saving grace sits way out on the horizon and involves the successful construction of “Circuito de Estados Unidos”… and even then it’s 50/50 given the “fair-weather” nature of the american fan-base. again, i can’t help but point out (broken record) that the ability to change all this rests with US…

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]]> By: Ruefus http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/06/ben-spies-getting-in-tune-with-his-factory-ride/comment-page-1/#comment-23275 Ruefus Thu, 09 Jun 2011 08:14:36 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=15769#comment-23275 When was the last time an American came in after winning 3 AMA titles, walked on to SBK, won the title and then effectively ran away from a highly experienced, former factory MotoGP rider and 2 time SBK champ (Edwards) on the same bike in his first season in the series? Uhm.......never. Spies is the real deal and he's proven it. You cannot look at him some also-ran lucky-dog 'the-stars-aligned-that-day' American champion. He's young, a champion on several levels and on the same bike as the World Champion and just finished within sight of him. Something pretty much the rest of the field hasn't been able to do for a while. If he doesn't out qualify Lorenzo and become a regular podium finisher, I'll be astonished. When was the last time an American came in after winning 3 AMA titles, walked on to SBK, won the title and then effectively ran away from a highly experienced, former factory MotoGP rider and 2 time SBK champ (Edwards) on the same bike in his first season in the series?

Uhm…….never.

Spies is the real deal and he’s proven it. You cannot look at him some also-ran lucky-dog ‘the-stars-aligned-that-day’ American champion. He’s young, a champion on several levels and on the same bike as the World Champion and just finished within sight of him. Something pretty much the rest of the field hasn’t been able to do for a while.

If he doesn’t out qualify Lorenzo and become a regular podium finisher, I’ll be astonished.

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]]> By: Norm G. http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/06/ben-spies-getting-in-tune-with-his-factory-ride/comment-page-1/#comment-23253 Norm G. Wed, 08 Jun 2011 22:42:15 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=15769#comment-23253 Q: "Could Spies begin to out-qualify and out-place Lorenzo at future rounds? At least occasionally?" A: NO... he's a yank who can't attract sponsorship dollars for yamaha, or at a minimum, increase ticket sales for dorna at home rounds. his value is that americans make the best "2nd seat" riders and are rarely seen as threatening to their european team mates. Q: “Could Spies begin to out-qualify and out-place Lorenzo at future rounds? At least occasionally?”

A: NO… he’s a yank who can’t attract sponsorship dollars for yamaha, or at a minimum, increase ticket sales for dorna at home rounds. his value is that americans make the best “2nd seat” riders and are rarely seen as threatening to their european team mates.

]]> By: Norm G. http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/06/ben-spies-getting-in-tune-with-his-factory-ride/comment-page-1/#comment-23252 Norm G. Wed, 08 Jun 2011 22:22:23 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=15769#comment-23252 re: "Can it really be bike set up or tire compound choice" yes, these bikes don't cost millions of euro because they're not tuned to a razor's edge. much like how an F1 car can go from winning to losing over having a cracked diffuser...? or a few gallons of gas too much on board...? it's the same with a motogp bike. everything's adjustable, measured, controlled, and monitored. the down side of that is it's easy to screw up. a single setting out of place can cost you seconds (or gain you seconds). they are THAT sensitive. it's the whole point of tuning. re: “Can it really be bike set up or tire compound choice”

yes, these bikes don’t cost millions of euro because they’re not tuned to a razor’s edge. much like how an F1 car can go from winning to losing over having a cracked diffuser…? or a few gallons of gas too much on board…? it’s the same with a motogp bike. everything’s adjustable, measured, controlled, and monitored. the down side of that is it’s easy to screw up. a single setting out of place can cost you seconds (or gain you seconds). they are THAT sensitive. it’s the whole point of tuning.

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]]> By: Dave http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/06/ben-spies-getting-in-tune-with-his-factory-ride/comment-page-1/#comment-23238 Dave Wed, 08 Jun 2011 17:51:12 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=15769#comment-23238 I believe it is almost always equipment factors. These riders are contracted on their ability and Ben has had no trouble finding work. He did dominate WSB on a bike that has not had similar success under other riders (like Casey Stoner/Ducati). Consistent results only come when the rider and team have a good handle on the equipment. I believe it is almost always equipment factors. These riders are contracted on their ability and Ben has had no trouble finding work. He did dominate WSB on a bike that has not had similar success under other riders (like Casey Stoner/Ducati). Consistent results only come when the rider and team have a good handle on the equipment.

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]]> By: Martin http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/06/ben-spies-getting-in-tune-with-his-factory-ride/comment-page-1/#comment-23234 Martin Wed, 08 Jun 2011 14:46:20 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=15769#comment-23234 I think the key for Ben is to get a good start, like this last race. He's fast enough to ride at the front, but most of this year he's had trouble getting up there. I'm hoping he learns how to be a little more aggressive off the line and into that first turn. Go Ben! I think the key for Ben is to get a good start, like this last race. He’s fast enough to ride at the front, but most of this year he’s had trouble getting up there. I’m hoping he learns how to be a little more aggressive off the line and into that first turn. Go Ben!

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