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		<title>By: Annalisa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Annalisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jun 2011 23:17:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s hilarious guys! It definitely would help slow the bike down if it had some saddle bags. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s hilarious guys! It definitely would help slow the bike down if it had some saddle bags. <img src='http://www.motorcycledaily.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />
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		<title>By: Wilson R</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wilson R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jun 2011 21:48:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Honda would benefit from building bikes that people actually want to buy.  It&#039;s a simple formula to follow.  Just look at Triumph as an example.  They are creative and their bikes are in demand.  No 4 year DN-01&#039;s still sitting on the showroom floor.  No, I think Honda a very dumb.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Honda would benefit from building bikes that people actually want to buy.  It&#8217;s a simple formula to follow.  Just look at Triumph as an example.  They are creative and their bikes are in demand.  No 4 year DN-01&#8242;s still sitting on the showroom floor.  No, I think Honda a very dumb.
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		<title>By: Norm G.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Norm G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jun 2011 21:47:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>re: &quot;Good work Honda! To think of all that time and energy I wasted watching races and caring about the outcomes. Now I can ignore it completely.&quot;

no don&#039;t ignore it.  keep supporting.  by doing so your involvement gives a chance (albeit small) at changing things.  if you ignore it, your chance dwindles to ZERO.  remember racing is but a sub-niche of an already niche business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re: &#8220;Good work Honda! To think of all that time and energy I wasted watching races and caring about the outcomes. Now I can ignore it completely.&#8221;</p>
<p>no don&#8217;t ignore it.  keep supporting.  by doing so your involvement gives a chance (albeit small) at changing things.  if you ignore it, your chance dwindles to ZERO.  remember racing is but a sub-niche of an already niche business.
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		<title>By: Norm G.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Norm G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jun 2011 21:33:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>re: &quot;Don’t forget the sissy bar and the tassels on the bar ends&quot;

bar end tassels...?  or booby tassels...?</description>
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<p>bar end tassels&#8230;?  or booby tassels&#8230;?
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		<title>By: Norm G.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Norm G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jun 2011 21:26:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>re: &quot;No, Honda is dumb. Look at some of their failures….bikes that nobody asked for. Rune, DN-01, VFR1200 etc… These are good example of offerings from a company that is out of touch with the consumer.&quot;

let&#039;s theorize for a moment and ask, what if honda suddenly made a 180 degree about face and started producing all of it&#039;s motorcycles based on consumer input...?  would it work...?  the answer is a resounding &quot;NO&quot;.  why...?  because the very first thing we motorcyclists would think to do is &quot;devalue&quot; whatever they tooled up to bring us...? :(  

as reufus points out, the cost of homologation, emmission certs, etc. (never mind the physical costs of production) is in the millions...  not the &quot;thousands&quot;.  let you in on a lil&#039; secret...  honda aren&#039;t the ones out of touch...  it&#039;s US...!?!?  it can&#039;t keep being the manufacturer&#039;s fault all the time when we (who supposedly &quot;LOVE&quot; motorcycling) have a track history of NOT &quot;closing the loop&quot;.  numbers don&#039;t lie.  what...?  are we thinking the accounts don&#039;t see this...?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re: &#8220;No, Honda is dumb. Look at some of their failures….bikes that nobody asked for. Rune, DN-01, VFR1200 etc… These are good example of offerings from a company that is out of touch with the consumer.&#8221;</p>
<p>let&#8217;s theorize for a moment and ask, what if honda suddenly made a 180 degree about face and started producing all of it&#8217;s motorcycles based on consumer input&#8230;?  would it work&#8230;?  the answer is a resounding &#8220;NO&#8221;.  why&#8230;?  because the very first thing we motorcyclists would think to do is &#8220;devalue&#8221; whatever they tooled up to bring us&#8230;? <img src='http://www.motorcycledaily.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' />   </p>
<p>as reufus points out, the cost of homologation, emmission certs, etc. (never mind the physical costs of production) is in the millions&#8230;  not the &#8220;thousands&#8221;.  let you in on a lil&#8217; secret&#8230;  honda aren&#8217;t the ones out of touch&#8230;  it&#8217;s US&#8230;!?!?  it can&#8217;t keep being the manufacturer&#8217;s fault all the time when we (who supposedly &#8220;LOVE&#8221; motorcycling) have a track history of NOT &#8220;closing the loop&#8221;.  numbers don&#8217;t lie.  what&#8230;?  are we thinking the accounts don&#8217;t see this&#8230;?
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		<title>By: Norm G.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Norm G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jun 2011 20:30:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>re: &quot;It would be interesting to see what the maintenance intervals are on this engine. On a CRF250R the schedule is measured in hours like 15 hours for new piston and valves etc. And failure to adhere strictly will result in major and costly damage.&quot;

speaking of maintanence...  anybody know that honda calls for on the new CBR250...?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re: &#8220;It would be interesting to see what the maintenance intervals are on this engine. On a CRF250R the schedule is measured in hours like 15 hours for new piston and valves etc. And failure to adhere strictly will result in major and costly damage.&#8221;</p>
<p>speaking of maintanence&#8230;  anybody know that honda calls for on the new CBR250&#8230;?
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		<title>By: Norm G.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Norm G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jun 2011 20:12:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>re: &quot;4 strokes are completely inferior in EVERY measureable way but the lemmings will buy into it.&quot;

YAAAAHHHTZEEE...!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re: &#8220;4 strokes are completely inferior in EVERY measureable way but the lemmings will buy into it.&#8221;</p>
<p>YAAAAHHHTZEEE&#8230;!!!
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		<title>By: Norm G.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Norm G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jun 2011 20:10:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>re: &quot;I live near Roland and we have already spoken to him about putting a 450 in my Wife’s NSR250.&quot;

don&#039;t you dare bastardize that NSR250.  you leave her alone.  she was built perfect.  some things cannot be improved upon.  if you want a 450 project, may i suggest you hack up one of the new CBR250&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re: &#8220;I live near Roland and we have already spoken to him about putting a 450 in my Wife’s NSR250.&#8221;</p>
<p>don&#8217;t you dare bastardize that NSR250.  you leave her alone.  she was built perfect.  some things cannot be improved upon.  if you want a 450 project, may i suggest you hack up one of the new CBR250&#8242;s.
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		<title>By: Norm G.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Norm G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jun 2011 19:52:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>re: &quot;Hopefully they’ll make a cheaper production model for club racers (use the CRF250/450 engine).&quot;

they do...  it&#039;s called the honda/moriwaki MD250.  cost, $12 grand.  iirc they&#039;ve been running them in USGPRU goin&#039; on 3 years now...?

http://www.usgpru.net/moriwaki</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re: &#8220;Hopefully they’ll make a cheaper production model for club racers (use the CRF250/450 engine).&#8221;</p>
<p>they do&#8230;  it&#8217;s called the honda/moriwaki MD250.  cost, $12 grand.  iirc they&#8217;ve been running them in USGPRU goin&#8217; on 3 years now&#8230;?</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jun 2011 19:35:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe that they found the converted MXer&#039;s to handle extremely well once tilted down for road racing use. 

For those who think this would be fun to ride, have you ever seen a 125cc road racer up close? One needs to be ~5&#039;6&quot; or less to fit on one, they are TINY.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe that they found the converted MXer&#8217;s to handle extremely well once tilted down for road racing use. </p>
<p>For those who think this would be fun to ride, have you ever seen a 125cc road racer up close? One needs to be ~5&#8217;6&#8243; or less to fit on one, they are TINY.
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