Comments on: Why? (News) http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/07/why/ Motorcycle News, Editorials, Product Reviews and Bike Reviews Sat, 18 May 2013 14:54:27 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.2 By: Bugs http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/07/why/comment-page-1/#comment-25910 Bugs Fri, 29 Jul 2011 10:13:54 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=16451#comment-25910 Yes, I think Rossi would definitely be competitive and would win the odd race or two like Pedrosa and Lorenzo. But he'd still be playing second fiddle to Stoner. Stoner's too good. Yes, I think Rossi would definitely be competitive and would win the odd race or two like Pedrosa and Lorenzo. But he’d still be playing second fiddle to Stoner. Stoner’s too good.

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]]> By: Bugs http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/07/why/comment-page-1/#comment-25907 Bugs Fri, 29 Jul 2011 09:44:04 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=16451#comment-25907 I'd love to compare Joe Montana to Jeff Hostetler - if I knew who the hell they were. I’d love to compare Joe Montana to Jeff Hostetler – if I knew who the hell they were.

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]]> By: Bugs http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/07/why/comment-page-1/#comment-25906 Bugs Fri, 29 Jul 2011 09:41:59 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=16451#comment-25906 You rightly say the Ducati is a dog because so many riders have been slow on it, so how did Stoner manage to win 23 GP's and a world title on one? Throw Stoner on Rossi's bike and I reckon he'd get it on the podium. One day you'll learn that Stoner can ride anything. He doesn't need Nicky or Dani's help. You rightly say the Ducati is a dog because so many riders have been slow on it, so how did Stoner manage to win 23 GP’s and a world title on one?

Throw Stoner on Rossi’s bike and I reckon he’d get it on the podium.

One day you’ll learn that Stoner can ride anything. He doesn’t need Nicky or Dani’s help.

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]]> By: Bugs http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/07/why/comment-page-1/#comment-25905 Bugs Fri, 29 Jul 2011 09:09:19 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=16451#comment-25905 So Rossi's not to blame for Ducati's problems it's all Stoners fault for being good enough to actually win a race on the thing and therefore mask its problems? And Rossi isn't winning this year because his years at Yamaha taught him that it's best to not try and win if you want to help your engineers improve the bike? Now i've heard it all! If an average rider like Stoner can ride a Ducati beyond its design potential and in the process win 23 GP's and a world title, why can't the greatest rider of all time do the same? Either Rossi is overrated or Stoner is underrated (or perhaps a bit of both), but it's definitely not just the bike. So Rossi’s not to blame for Ducati’s problems it’s all Stoners fault for being good enough to actually win a race on the thing and therefore mask its problems?

And Rossi isn’t winning this year because his years at Yamaha taught him that it’s best to not try and win if you want to help your engineers improve the bike?

Now i’ve heard it all!

If an average rider like Stoner can ride a Ducati beyond its design potential and in the process win 23 GP’s and a world title, why can’t the greatest rider of all time do the same?

Either Rossi is overrated or Stoner is underrated (or perhaps a bit of both), but it’s definitely not just the bike.

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]]> By: Hotkarl http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/07/why/comment-page-1/#comment-25500 Hotkarl Wed, 20 Jul 2011 17:59:31 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=16451#comment-25500 Best of all time? Doohan, Rainey, Schwantz. If Rossi wins the title on the Ducati, then he gets that title in my books. Till then, Doohan has it in my mind, those 500cc bikes with no electronics were stupid and racer's basically had 5 years of riding them at the limit, before they would get spit off and so injured they couldn't ride competitively anymore. Best of all time? Doohan, Rainey, Schwantz.
If Rossi wins the title on the Ducati, then he gets that title in my books.
Till then, Doohan has it in my mind, those 500cc bikes with no electronics were stupid and racer’s basically had 5 years of riding them at the limit, before they would get spit off and so injured they couldn’t ride competitively anymore.

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]]> By: Nome http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/07/why/comment-page-1/#comment-25335 Nome Sun, 17 Jul 2011 16:44:59 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=16451#comment-25335 Absolutely. The M1 (with Biaggi) had in 2002 placed second in the championship ahead of all Hondas and every other bikes except Rossi's, so it was hardly a slow bike. 2003 it was ridden by mediocre riders to mediocre results and 2004 it once again had a great rider with Rossi. Absolutely. The M1 (with Biaggi) had in 2002 placed second in the championship ahead of all Hondas and every other bikes except Rossi’s, so it was hardly a slow bike. 2003 it was ridden by mediocre riders to mediocre results and 2004 it once again had a great rider with Rossi.

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]]> By: Mustafa Jamal http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/07/why/comment-page-1/#comment-25321 Mustafa Jamal Sun, 17 Jul 2011 07:02:18 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=16451#comment-25321 guys, lets start acknowledging few facts now after watching a few riders riding ducati. if no one except Stoner could ever ride ducati comfortably (barring Bayliss), we have to take hats off to him. I am not a stoner fan and always suspected his talent but he has proved now time and again on different machines. We cant argue about it any more. I am a Rossi fan but have to accept this now that he is just like any other rider who cant handle ducati. Yes the bike is new and he had injuries, and less time and so on, but a rider of Rossi's calibre ought to do better than that, if he was at the peak of his career. age is defintely a factor no one can remain at the peak for ever. Rossi's days are gone, its hard to digest, but looks like its gonna be fact even after 1000 cc introduction. He sounds confident of better result on it but so far its only based a testing results. you dont know how other bikes will have improved too. If Rossi cant produce result on 800cc, but rather going backward, i have my doubt on the potential of 1000 cc engine on the same chassis used now. Yes Rossi is one the greatest rider ever in history of this sport, but the sun is setting on him. guys, lets start acknowledging few facts now after watching a few riders riding ducati. if no one except Stoner could ever ride ducati comfortably (barring Bayliss), we have to take hats off to him. I am not a stoner fan and always suspected his talent but he has proved now time and again on different machines. We cant argue about it any more. I am a Rossi fan but have to accept this now that he is just like any other rider who cant handle ducati. Yes the bike is new and he had injuries, and less time and so on, but a rider of Rossi’s calibre ought to do better than that, if he was at the peak of his career. age is defintely a factor no one can remain at the peak for ever. Rossi’s days are gone, its hard to digest, but looks like its gonna be fact even after 1000 cc introduction. He sounds confident of better result on it but so far its only based a testing results. you dont know how other bikes will have improved too. If Rossi cant produce result on 800cc, but rather going backward, i have my doubt on the potential of 1000 cc engine on the same chassis used now.
Yes Rossi is one the greatest rider ever in history of this sport, but the sun is setting on him.

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]]> By: vipkat http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/07/why/comment-page-1/#comment-25272 vipkat Fri, 15 Jul 2011 13:30:32 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=16451#comment-25272 People the guy one championships on Honda and Yamaha, 125, 250, 500 , 880 and 990, nuff said! People the guy one championships on Honda and Yamaha, 125, 250, 500 , 880 and 990, nuff said!

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]]> By: Fat Old Man http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/07/why/comment-page-1/#comment-25266 Fat Old Man Fri, 15 Jul 2011 06:48:57 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=16451#comment-25266 From the picture, it looks like it could be extra weight caused by breast augmentation. From the picture, it looks like it could be extra weight caused by breast augmentation.

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]]> By: Simon Evans http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/07/why/comment-page-1/#comment-25236 Simon Evans Thu, 14 Jul 2011 17:20:38 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=16451#comment-25236 I think there might be misunderstanding. Rossi was not employed to win the last of the `old` 800cc championships. He's employed on a single basis to win the first of the new 1000cc championships... Because that's how Ducati makes money. I think there might be misunderstanding.

Rossi was not employed to win the last of the `old` 800cc championships.

He’s employed on a single basis to win the first of the new 1000cc championships…

Because that’s how Ducati makes money.

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