Comments on: Honda and Yamaha Inside Brno 800cc Pole During 1,000cc Tests (News)

By: GixxerGary

GixxerGary — Sat, 20 Aug 2011 16:06:32 +0000

I agree, less programmers talent, more riders talent.

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By: kyle

kyle — Thu, 18 Aug 2011 20:14:51 +0000

and thats why wsbk is better than motogp…

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By: Gutterslob

Gutterslob — Wed, 17 Aug 2011 10:24:20 +0000

Just to add, I do a bit of software dev work on a pert-time or contributory basis (mainly Open Source and GNU/Linux), so I don’t have any particular hatred towards programmers, but this is real motorsport.

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By: Gutterslob

Gutterslob — Wed, 17 Aug 2011 10:21:20 +0000

imho, it’s not the displacement that’s the problem. It’s all those GPS controlled engine-mapping, shock-damping, etc that give specific settings for each individual corner and stuff, along with the other electronics. They need to take the sport away from the programmers and give it back to the riders and engineers.

For sure, some electronic wizardry is good, especially if it’ll make its way to the bikes you and I buy in future, but still….

Even when the 1000s arrive next year, I have a feeling they won’t be the same “hell-machines” (Nicki Lauda’s words, not mine) that we say at the beginning of the 990 era. Those bikes sounded like bikes. Late 990 era and the 800s all sound broken (like they’re constantly misfiring) when going round slower corners, with their traction control cutting in all the time.

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By: MGNorge

MGNorge — Wed, 17 Aug 2011 10:04:01 +0000

When I hear that kind of remark, that MotoGP is boring because of it being a “parade” as you say, my first thought is you must not be a fan at those leading that parade? If it were a favorite rider or perhaps brand of bike all of a sudden the tune changes.

I find MotoGP very entertaining to watch, both for the equipment and the rider’s skills. I do wish Suzuki could find their mojo and be more of a threat and it would hurt to have Kawasaki join in. My first enjoyment in racing is usually the battle between the brands, no so much the riders.

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By: MikeD

MikeD — Tue, 16 Aug 2011 23:13:06 +0000

I just want to see more black stripes and Power Slides… is that asking too much ? LOL.

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By: MikeD

MikeD — Tue, 16 Aug 2011 23:10:00 +0000

Moto2…Moto2…AHH ! I get it! U mean The Honda Cup!

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By: Bob

Bob — Tue, 16 Aug 2011 15:53:35 +0000

So quit watching it. Some of us still enjoy it. I like it for the technology as much as the race. Even if the race is a procession, I still get a kick out of watching the riders’ form and technique. I don’t race anymore but I find myself still learning by watching. I think I get better with each race. That’s a big part of the appeal for me.

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By: Bob

Bob — Tue, 16 Aug 2011 15:48:16 +0000

There was only ever one thing wrong with the 800s and that was the precision with which you must ride them. All the riders say that you really only get one line choice. If you want to deviate from it mid-corner, you end up in the kitty litter.

The 1000s and the extra power is going to be difficult to tame even with the sophistiated traction control. The riders are already saying the tire wants to slide around a bit. Add any more traction control to tame that and they’ll lose time because they have now dramatically reduced the drive out of the corners.

With the riders’ observations in mind, I see this as good news to us arm chair fanatics. IMO, this means the rider will now have to use a higher level of skill to not only control the bike but to make the bike do things the 800 will not, such as deviate from the pure high corner speed style smooth turning in possible favor of different line choices. There will be a rebirth of backing it in (somewhere between the 990s sliding and the 800s cornerspeed style) and there will therefore be more line choices being made by the riders which will promote more passing opportunities.

I thought the 2011 season was going to be a whopper. Seems the only thing that changed was Rossi being a second off the lead pace. I have high hopes for 2012. Things are looking up according to rider comments.

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By: Tom Shields

Tom Shields — Tue, 16 Aug 2011 11:17:56 +0000

It’s more than just speed. The extra horsepower allows more easily attainable power slides out of corner exits, for example, so it opens up a whole new dynamic. Should be interesting.

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