Comments on: 2012 R1 Receives Traction Control and Cosmetic Updates (Bike Reports) (News) http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/09/2012-r1-receives-traction-control-and-cosmetic-updates/ Motorcycle News, Editorials, Product Reviews and Bike Reviews Tue, 18 Jun 2013 02:35:16 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.2 By: Norm G. http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/09/2012-r1-receives-traction-control-and-cosmetic-updates/comment-page-1/#comment-28926 Norm G. Fri, 30 Sep 2011 00:05:03 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=17390#comment-28926 i'm secretly hoping lorenzo pulls off a miracle...? :) i’m secretly hoping lorenzo pulls off a miracle…? :)

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]]> By: Norm G. http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/09/2012-r1-receives-traction-control-and-cosmetic-updates/comment-page-1/#comment-28925 Norm G. Fri, 30 Sep 2011 00:03:39 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=17390#comment-28925 correction... make that 9 recent titles... 5 motogp, 3 domestic SBK, and 1 WSBK. correction… make that 9 recent titles… 5 motogp, 3 domestic SBK, and 1 WSBK.

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]]> By: Norm G. http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/09/2012-r1-receives-traction-control-and-cosmetic-updates/comment-page-1/#comment-28924 Norm G. Thu, 29 Sep 2011 23:55:27 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=17390#comment-28924 to help you guys better frame this bike in the context of the 8 recent titles (count 'em 8) from which this bike is born, here's a link to the new yamaha vid of spies and the 2012 at parcmotor in catalunya. i believe BMW held one of their debuts of the S1000 here... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Vg70r41iCI while the R1 might not be the king of the dyno, there's probably something to be said for the fact the average consumer CAN'T ride like rossi, lorenzo, spies, hayes, or camier either...? to help you guys better frame this bike in the context of the 8 recent titles (count ‘em 8) from which this bike is born, here’s a link to the new yamaha vid of spies and the 2012 at parcmotor in catalunya. i believe BMW held one of their debuts of the S1000 here…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Vg70r41iCI

while the R1 might not be the king of the dyno, there’s probably something to be said for the fact the average consumer CAN’T ride like rossi, lorenzo, spies, hayes, or camier either…?

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]]> By: mark http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/09/2012-r1-receives-traction-control-and-cosmetic-updates/comment-page-1/#comment-28905 mark Thu, 29 Sep 2011 17:12:32 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=17390#comment-28905 Sorry Norm. My previous post was not meant as a reply. Just a point to the exhaust nay sayers. It's funny to hear people complain about the R1 stock exhaust style. If you roll with stock exhaust on any high performance sportbike, you have no style. I remember when the first 929's from Honda came out. Then I saw the stock exhaust in person. I started laughing at the artillery cannon on the side of the bike. Stock exhaust is always the first upgrade to come my bikes. Then the chip, next the... Sorry Norm. My previous post was not meant as a reply.

Just a point to the exhaust nay sayers. It’s funny to hear people complain about
the R1 stock exhaust style. If you roll with stock exhaust on any high
performance sportbike, you have no style. I remember when the first 929′s from
Honda came out. Then I saw the stock exhaust in person. I started laughing at
the artillery cannon on the side of the bike. Stock exhaust is always the
first upgrade to come my bikes. Then the chip, next the…

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]]> By: mark http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/09/2012-r1-receives-traction-control-and-cosmetic-updates/comment-page-1/#comment-28876 mark Thu, 29 Sep 2011 08:28:48 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=17390#comment-28876 Sorry Norm. My previous post was not meant as a reply. Just a point to the R1 exhaust nay sayers. It's funny to hear people complain about the R1 stock exhaust style. If you roll with stock exhaust on any high performance sportbike, you have no style. I remember when the 929's from Honda came out. Then I saw the stock exhaust in person. I started laughing at the artillery cannon on the side of the bike. Stock exhaust is always the first upgrade for my bikes. Then the chip, next the... Sorry Norm. My previous post was not meant as a reply.

Just a point to the R1 exhaust nay sayers. It’s funny to hear people complain about the R1 stock exhaust style. If you roll with stock exhaust on any high performance sportbike, you have no style. I remember when the 929′s from Honda came out. Then I saw the stock exhaust in person. I started laughing at the artillery cannon on the side of the bike. Stock exhaust is always the first upgrade for my bikes. Then the chip, next the…

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]]> By: mark http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/09/2012-r1-receives-traction-control-and-cosmetic-updates/comment-page-1/#comment-28872 mark Thu, 29 Sep 2011 07:41:02 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=17390#comment-28872 Traction control on a high performance street legal bike is worthless. Let me break this down. 95% of street sport bike riders have huge chicken strips on their tires. If you need traction control when your going straight you either have zero throttle control or burn-outs are against your religion. If you're losing grip rolling on the throttle, exiting a turn, you're either in the 5% that can benefit from traction control or the tires on your bike are trash. Out of that 5%, only .05% will put that traction control to proper use. The thing with the eligible .05% (pro racers)is, they will use their own traction control hardware/software, not Yamaha's. Don't oogle over TC. Traction control on a high performance street legal bike is worthless. Let me break this down. 95% of street sport bike riders have huge chicken strips on their tires. If you need traction control when your going straight you either have zero throttle control or burn-outs are against your religion. If you’re losing grip rolling on the throttle, exiting a turn, you’re either in the 5% that can benefit from traction control or the tires on your bike are trash. Out of that 5%, only .05% will put that traction control to proper use. The thing with the eligible .05% (pro racers)is, they will use their own traction control hardware/software, not Yamaha’s. Don’t oogle over TC.

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]]> By: Norm G. http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/09/2012-r1-receives-traction-control-and-cosmetic-updates/comment-page-1/#comment-28772 Norm G. Tue, 27 Sep 2011 19:38:45 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=17390#comment-28772 re: "How about the crank for forward thinking?" trickle down directly from motogp and VR46. perhaps even moreso than the D16RR. first ever crossplane (bigbang) engine, ti valves, 6 piston radial calipers, variable throttle bodies, ride-by-wire, 7 step TC, VR46 flex clamp, slipper clutch, soqi forks with seperated compression/rebound. dripping with tech and can be bought for waaaayyy less than $25 grand homologation specials of old...? i'm sold. re: “How about the crank for forward thinking?”

trickle down directly from motogp and VR46. perhaps even moreso than the D16RR. first ever crossplane (bigbang) engine, ti valves, 6 piston radial calipers, variable throttle bodies, ride-by-wire, 7 step TC, VR46 flex clamp, slipper clutch, soqi forks with seperated compression/rebound. dripping with tech and can be bought for waaaayyy less than $25 grand homologation specials of old…? i’m sold.

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]]> By: billy http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/09/2012-r1-receives-traction-control-and-cosmetic-updates/comment-page-1/#comment-28464 billy Tue, 20 Sep 2011 23:09:48 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=17390#comment-28464 Monsterduc, there really isn't forward thinking like you are thinking anyway. You're kind of stuck in the nineties if you think the manufacturers will/can move the ball forward twenty yards every few years. How about the crank for forward thinking? Ride one hard with pipes. The sound is quite unique. Maybe similar to the RC45 and not unlike a v-twin down low. The new R1 is light on it's feet if not in the garage. Also it is dead smooth. I mean so smooth I sometimes forgot to shift higher than fourth until I glanced at the rev counter. This is a desirable trait in a street bike. For resale value and build quality I can not even consider the Suzi or Kawi. So that only leaves the CBR or R1 to me. Monsterduc, there really isn’t forward thinking like you are thinking anyway. You’re kind of stuck in the nineties if you think the manufacturers will/can move the ball forward twenty yards every few years.

How about the crank for forward thinking? Ride one hard with pipes. The sound is quite unique. Maybe similar to the RC45 and not unlike a v-twin down low.

The new R1 is light on it’s feet if not in the garage. Also it is dead smooth. I mean so smooth I sometimes forgot to shift higher than fourth until I glanced at the rev counter. This is a desirable trait in a street bike. For resale value and build quality I can not even consider the Suzi or Kawi. So that only leaves the CBR or R1 to me.

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]]> By: monsterduc1000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/09/2012-r1-receives-traction-control-and-cosmetic-updates/comment-page-1/#comment-28388 monsterduc1000 Mon, 19 Sep 2011 10:57:40 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=17390#comment-28388 Nope. Nope.

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]]> By: Norm G. http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/09/2012-r1-receives-traction-control-and-cosmetic-updates/comment-page-1/#comment-28358 Norm G. Sun, 18 Sep 2011 13:55:58 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=17390#comment-28358 re: "I think the B-King has the “dumbest, heaviest looking exhaust I ever seen”. touche... vince knows that of which he speaks. re: “I think the B-King has the “dumbest, heaviest looking exhaust I ever seen”.

touche… vince knows that of which he speaks.

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