Comments on: Aragon MotoGP Results (News) (Race Results) http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/09/aragon-motogp-results-2/ Motorcycle News, Editorials, Product Reviews and Bike Reviews Wed, 19 Jun 2013 10:28:35 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.2 By: Scott in the UK http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/09/aragon-motogp-results-2/comment-page-1/#comment-28460 Scott in the UK Tue, 20 Sep 2011 16:42:03 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=17474#comment-28460 Marky I'm hoping Moto3 will have some different manufacturers and approaches....but I sure as hell wish they had made them 450s not 250s... Marky I’m hoping Moto3 will have some different manufacturers and approaches….but I sure as hell wish they had made them 450s not 250s…

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]]> By: Scott in the UK http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/09/aragon-motogp-results-2/comment-page-1/#comment-28459 Scott in the UK Tue, 20 Sep 2011 16:39:58 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=17474#comment-28459 Well as an Aussie I'm particularly enjoying the Stoner show this year. As I have said before...if it's all the bike does that take away from Rossi all those wins on the V5 Honda - clearly the best bike by a mile at the start of the MotoGP era? No, it doesn't - and neither does Stoners domination this year come down to the bike only. The guy is on fire, and maturing very nicely. Some people don't like his demeanour - they said the same thing of Lawson as well. It matters that you win - you don't have to be "Mr Personality" as well. Doohan may have been the finest 500cc rider of all time, but he tended to let his riding do the talking. Well as an Aussie I’m particularly enjoying the Stoner show this year. As I have said before…if it’s all the bike does that take away from Rossi all those wins on the V5 Honda – clearly the best bike by a mile at the start of the MotoGP era? No, it doesn’t – and neither does Stoners domination this year come down to the bike only. The guy is on fire, and maturing very nicely. Some people don’t like his demeanour – they said the same thing of Lawson as well.

It matters that you win – you don’t have to be “Mr Personality” as well. Doohan may have been the finest 500cc rider of all time, but he tended to let his riding do the talking.

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]]> By: Dale http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/09/aragon-motogp-results-2/comment-page-1/#comment-28451 Dale Tue, 20 Sep 2011 14:50:49 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=17474#comment-28451 I thought I was replying to Ruefus. I thought I was replying to Ruefus.

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]]> By: Dale http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/09/aragon-motogp-results-2/comment-page-1/#comment-28450 Dale Tue, 20 Sep 2011 14:48:25 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=17474#comment-28450 I hear you. I'd want my Rider to try to win by as large a margin as possible but then to hold position with 5-10 seconds in hand. The desire to "lap the field" being tempered by trying to maximize the opportunity to Win the race, in order to finish First you must first finish. I love a good dust up, half a dozen Riders hustling for a position, the lead, a Win... Makes my blood boil, I Love It! Many times, for different reasons, the race isn't like that, I still enjoy the Race, differently. MotoGP is like Formula One, two or three teams usually have a realistic chance of a podium finish on any given weekend. It is the pinochle of two wheeled Speed on a Road Course drawing the best Riders and the most expensive Racing Motorcycles. If you have a lot of talent but are on second tier equipment it will only show relative to the other Riders on similar equipment unless it rains! WSB is usually has more entertaining Racing, Austrialian V-8 Supercars too. Fortunately I've arranged my schedule in such a way that I can pursue my interests whenever I feel like it, all of my interests. I don't have to chose, I follow MotoGP and WSB. When we were racing we tried to not just Win, we wanted to blow them out of the water, easily, we wanted to demoralize our Competition. I remember watching Mat Maladin Win by over 20 seconds at Ontario one year. He'd scream by and you'd wait, and wait, and wait until, finally, the rest of the Strong field came by, lap after lap, Impressive. It looked like he was trying to lap the field. I hear you. I’d want my Rider to try to win by as large a margin as possible but then to hold position with 5-10 seconds in hand. The desire to “lap the field” being tempered by trying to maximize the opportunity to Win the race, in order to finish First you must first finish.

I love a good dust up, half a dozen Riders hustling for a position, the lead, a Win… Makes my blood boil, I Love It! Many times, for different reasons, the race isn’t like that, I still enjoy the Race, differently. MotoGP is like Formula One, two or three teams usually have a realistic chance of a podium finish on any given weekend. It is the pinochle of two wheeled Speed on a Road Course drawing the best Riders and the most expensive Racing Motorcycles. If you have a lot of talent but are on second tier equipment it will only show relative to the other Riders on similar equipment unless it rains! WSB is usually has more entertaining Racing, Austrialian V-8 Supercars too.

Fortunately I’ve arranged my schedule in such a way that I can pursue my interests whenever I feel like it, all of my interests. I don’t have to chose, I follow MotoGP and WSB.

When we were racing we tried to not just Win, we wanted to blow them out of the water, easily, we wanted to demoralize our Competition.

I remember watching Mat Maladin Win by over 20 seconds at Ontario one year. He’d scream by and you’d wait, and wait, and wait until, finally, the rest of the Strong field came by, lap after lap, Impressive. It looked like he was trying to lap the field.

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]]> By: Marky Mark http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/09/aragon-motogp-results-2/comment-page-1/#comment-28442 Marky Mark Tue, 20 Sep 2011 10:46:30 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=17474#comment-28442 +1... That's why Moto 2 is such a disappointment. Spec motor, spec tire, too many regulations. I can walk out my patio door and hear 600 inline 4's go by. +1… That’s why Moto 2 is such a disappointment. Spec motor, spec tire, too many regulations. I can walk out my patio door and hear 600 inline 4′s go by.

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]]> By: John http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/09/aragon-motogp-results-2/comment-page-1/#comment-28438 John Tue, 20 Sep 2011 10:06:23 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=17474#comment-28438 "Seems Rossi is the ‘whiney biotch’ these days." Agree 100% “Seems Rossi is the ‘whiney biotch’ these days.”

Agree 100%

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]]> By: Ruefus http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/09/aragon-motogp-results-2/comment-page-1/#comment-28431 Ruefus Tue, 20 Sep 2011 07:54:47 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=17474#comment-28431 So, it's LESS impressive for a rider to make a win look simple by finishing with wide margin, rather than a small one. Hmmmm........ So, it’s LESS impressive for a rider to make a win look simple by finishing with wide margin, rather than a small one. Hmmmm……..

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]]> By: Lenny B http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/09/aragon-motogp-results-2/comment-page-1/#comment-28429 Lenny B Tue, 20 Sep 2011 01:40:23 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=17474#comment-28429 Similar machines, same weight, same dimensions to the mm, same performance all so we can see 4-5 riders or more in a group every race hum.....sounds kinda like Nascar doesn't it! This is racing at it's truest. When machine builders have to figure out how to make more power and put it to the ground so there bikes can keep up with the faster ones and when riders need to improve there skills to compete with faster riders. How else will this sport evolve and stay at the forefront of elite racing. Even if the race is at second, third and fourth positions so what it's still racing and as long as the other teams are having to play catch up they will keep trying to build faster machines to do so. If you want to watch the same drivers weekend after weekend go round and round in a circle all day tune into a Nascar event, I promise you won't be disappointed! Similar machines, same weight, same dimensions to the mm, same performance all so we can see 4-5 riders or more in a group every race hum…..sounds kinda like Nascar doesn’t it! This is racing at it’s truest. When machine builders have to figure out how to make more power and put it to the ground so there bikes can keep up with the faster ones and when riders need to improve there skills to compete with faster riders. How else will this sport evolve and stay at the forefront of elite racing. Even if the race is at second, third and fourth positions so what it’s still racing and as long as the other teams are having to play catch up they will keep trying to build faster machines to do so. If you want to watch the same drivers weekend after weekend go round and round in a circle all day tune into a Nascar event, I promise you won’t be disappointed!

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]]> By: jim http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/09/aragon-motogp-results-2/comment-page-1/#comment-28426 jim Tue, 20 Sep 2011 00:57:03 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=17474#comment-28426 Put them on similar bikes and remove all electronic nannies and let's see them run. Put them on similar bikes and remove all electronic nannies and let’s see them run.

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]]> By: Pete http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/09/aragon-motogp-results-2/comment-page-1/#comment-28413 Pete Mon, 19 Sep 2011 21:48:04 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=17474#comment-28413 I think the way he rides the thing with such controlled agression is impressive. Seems Rossi is the 'whiney biotch' these days. What does that tell you? I think the way he rides the thing with such controlled agression is impressive. Seems Rossi is the ‘whiney biotch’ these days. What does that tell you?

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