Comments on: Ducati, and Carlos Checa, Dominate WSB Championship with Steel Trellis-Framed 1198 (Bike Reports) (News) http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/10/ducati-and-carlos-checa-dominate-wsb-championship-with-steel-trellis-framed-1198/ Motorcycle News, Editorials, Product Reviews and Bike Reviews Thu, 20 Jun 2013 07:30:17 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.2 By: Norm G. http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/10/ducati-and-carlos-checa-dominate-wsb-championship-with-steel-trellis-framed-1198/comment-page-1/#comment-29381 Norm G. Sat, 08 Oct 2011 22:00:57 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=17785#comment-29381 carlos checa and 15 other champions going back 20 years have no idea what you're talking about. carlos checa and 15 other champions going back 20 years have no idea what you’re talking about.

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]]> By: MikeD http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/10/ducati-and-carlos-checa-dominate-wsb-championship-with-steel-trellis-framed-1198/comment-page-1/#comment-29212 MikeD Wed, 05 Oct 2011 23:22:58 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=17785#comment-29212 +1. +1.

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]]> By: Norm G. http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/10/ducati-and-carlos-checa-dominate-wsb-championship-with-steel-trellis-framed-1198/comment-page-1/#comment-29201 Norm G. Wed, 05 Oct 2011 18:49:26 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=17785#comment-29201 fair enough. i can get behind that. physics is physics and power to weight is power to weight. mass alone is the generally accepted equalizer in car world anyway. happened to audi, happened to cadillac. twins can be ultra-light or fours can be ballasted. or maybe it's vice versa...!? :) fair enough. i can get behind that. physics is physics and power to weight is power to weight. mass alone is the generally accepted equalizer in car world anyway. happened to audi, happened to cadillac. twins can be ultra-light or fours can be ballasted. or maybe it’s vice versa…!? :)

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]]> By: Gutterslob http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/10/ducati-and-carlos-checa-dominate-wsb-championship-with-steel-trellis-framed-1198/comment-page-1/#comment-29190 Gutterslob Wed, 05 Oct 2011 17:15:53 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=17785#comment-29190 I'd rather see all the bikes have the same displacement. Twins could be allowed a 8-10 kg weight decrease or something. I’d rather see all the bikes have the same displacement.
Twins could be allowed a 8-10 kg weight decrease or something.

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]]> By: Mark http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/10/ducati-and-carlos-checa-dominate-wsb-championship-with-steel-trellis-framed-1198/comment-page-1/#comment-29176 Mark Wed, 05 Oct 2011 15:06:11 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=17785#comment-29176 Time will prove that wrong. Constant, incremental improvement coupled by breakthroughs that we can't even conceive of means motogp bikes will continue to amaze us Time will prove that wrong. Constant, incremental improvement coupled by breakthroughs that we can’t even conceive of means motogp bikes will continue to amaze us

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]]> By: Norm G. http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/10/ducati-and-carlos-checa-dominate-wsb-championship-with-steel-trellis-framed-1198/comment-page-1/#comment-29170 Norm G. Wed, 05 Oct 2011 13:35:23 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=17785#comment-29170 yup, the V12's are subject to 2 methods of handicapping, weight and air restriction. unless they changed something, last i heard weight can be adjusted in 3kg increments and the square area of the throttle bodies adjusted in 2mm increments. the hard and fast rule has always been nobody and their mama can weigh less than 165k (parity via power/weight ratio). ducati had to weigh more and sport restrictors (not sure what size) from the off and i think they did get an adjustment in weight...? not 100% sure on that and not even sure if it went up or down...? but i definitely haven't heard ANY talk of an adjustment to restrictor size. yup, the V12′s are subject to 2 methods of handicapping, weight and air restriction. unless they changed something, last i heard weight can be adjusted in 3kg increments and the square area of the throttle bodies adjusted in 2mm increments. the hard and fast rule has always been nobody and their mama can weigh less than 165k (parity via power/weight ratio). ducati had to weigh more and sport restrictors (not sure what size) from the off and i think they did get an adjustment in weight…? not 100% sure on that and not even sure if it went up or down…? but i definitely haven’t heard ANY talk of an adjustment to restrictor size.

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]]> By: HendR1ck http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/10/ducati-and-carlos-checa-dominate-wsb-championship-with-steel-trellis-framed-1198/comment-page-1/#comment-29168 HendR1ck Wed, 05 Oct 2011 13:25:29 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=17785#comment-29168 Some of these post are kinda strange. "If they had the same brakes, stiffer frame, same tires" etc.... Then they would not be a production based series. Personally, I like the fact that WSB cannot have exotic/un obtainable parts. My R1 is not the same as Marco's R1, but its alot closer than Ben's M1, because Ben/Jorge have parts that we just cant get. I like the seperation, and think it should be more so. Some of these post are kinda strange. “If they had the same brakes, stiffer frame, same tires” etc….
Then they would not be a production based series. Personally, I like the fact that WSB cannot have exotic/un obtainable parts. My R1 is not the same as Marco’s R1, but its alot closer than Ben’s M1, because Ben/Jorge have parts that we just cant get. I like the seperation, and think it should be more so.

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]]> By: MikeD http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/10/ducati-and-carlos-checa-dominate-wsb-championship-with-steel-trellis-framed-1198/comment-page-1/#comment-29125 MikeD Tue, 04 Oct 2011 21:21:45 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=17785#comment-29125 LMAO. AGAIN with the "is not FAIR, YOURS IS BIGGER THAN MINE"...LMFAO. If u only had a clue as to how each powerplant creates and gives the HP and Torque out maybe u wouldn't be complaining like that. If memory serves me well i believe the Twins have to use restrictor plates. I-4s i don't think they do. Norm G.! Would u care to back this up with the facts ? I bet u are more on top of "the game" than i do. LMAO. AGAIN with the “is not FAIR, YOURS IS BIGGER THAN MINE”…LMFAO.

If u only had a clue as to how each powerplant creates and gives the HP and Torque out maybe u wouldn’t be complaining like that.

If memory serves me well i believe the Twins have to use restrictor plates. I-4s i don’t think they do.

Norm G.! Would u care to back this up with the facts ? I bet u are more on top of “the game” than i do.

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]]> By: pete Rasmussen http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/10/ducati-and-carlos-checa-dominate-wsb-championship-with-steel-trellis-framed-1198/comment-page-1/#comment-29123 pete Rasmussen Tue, 04 Oct 2011 19:24:49 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=17785#comment-29123 They also have a 200 to 400 cc disadvantage. Anyrate, I think motogp are pushing the boundaries of whats possible, unlikely the bigger capacity bikes will be a lot faster. They also have a 200 to 400 cc disadvantage. Anyrate, I think motogp are pushing the boundaries of whats possible, unlikely the bigger capacity bikes will be a lot faster.

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]]> By: Dave http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/10/ducati-and-carlos-checa-dominate-wsb-championship-with-steel-trellis-framed-1198/comment-page-1/#comment-29116 Dave Tue, 04 Oct 2011 13:44:03 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=17785#comment-29116 The tires are the tires. If the bike doesn't work with the tire supplied then the bike doesn't work. It will be interesting to see what Moto GP becomes in the next few years. With only 17 bikes on the grid right now (compared to up to 40 in Moto 2) I'd say the class is dangerously close to extinction. Almost every other class produces far better quality racing entertainment as well. The tires are the tires. If the bike doesn’t work with the tire supplied then the bike doesn’t work. It will be interesting to see what Moto GP becomes in the next few years. With only 17 bikes on the grid right now (compared to up to 40 in Moto 2) I’d say the class is dangerously close to extinction. Almost every other class produces far better quality racing entertainment as well.

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