Comments on: Three New Triumphs for 2012 Include Tiger Explorer 1200+ (Bike Reports) (News) http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/10/three-new-triumphs-for-2012-include-tiger-explorer-1200/ Motorcycle News, Editorials, Product Reviews and Bike Reviews Sat, 25 May 2013 00:47:15 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.2 By: bad Chad http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/10/three-new-triumphs-for-2012-include-tiger-explorer-1200/comment-page-1/#comment-30858 bad Chad Sat, 29 Oct 2011 13:57:04 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=18257#comment-30858 Looking forward to the Adv bike compros. Guzzi Stelvio vs BMW GS vs Yama Tien vs Tiger, oh my. Personally, I think the Stelvio will have it all over the others. Looking forward to the Adv bike compros. Guzzi Stelvio vs BMW GS vs Yama Tien vs Tiger, oh my. Personally, I think the Stelvio will have it all over the others.

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]]> By: sliphorn http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/10/three-new-triumphs-for-2012-include-tiger-explorer-1200/comment-page-1/#comment-30795 sliphorn Fri, 28 Oct 2011 12:35:07 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=18257#comment-30795 I here you, Jack. I've got an '06 Sprint ST and it's a mile muncher. I here you, Jack. I’ve got an ’06 Sprint ST and it’s a mile muncher.

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]]> By: jack http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/10/three-new-triumphs-for-2012-include-tiger-explorer-1200/comment-page-1/#comment-30776 jack Thu, 27 Oct 2011 19:33:18 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=18257#comment-30776 The Tiger Explorer looks great, but it's not my style. Those who wonder where the 1200 Trophy is are right, Triumph needs a true large touring bike. The Sprint GT is a disaster. Neither are for me either. I want my Sprint ST back. A lot of responders long for a light weight true sport tourer, well that is the Sprint ST. It's as light as the Ninja 1000 once you install the bags and has an excellant engine. I'm 66 and have taken mine on trips of over 7,000 miles. You don't need shaft drive or a 700 LB touring couch to do maxi miles. It would be even better if they could shave another 30+ LBS off it. ARE YOU LISTENING TRIUMPH!!!!! The Tiger Explorer looks great, but it’s not my style. Those who wonder where the 1200 Trophy is are right, Triumph needs a true large touring bike. The Sprint GT is a disaster. Neither are for me either. I want my Sprint ST back. A lot of responders long for a light weight true sport tourer, well that is the Sprint ST. It’s as light as the Ninja 1000 once you install the bags and has an excellant engine. I’m 66 and have taken mine on trips of over 7,000 miles. You don’t need shaft drive or a 700 LB touring couch to do maxi miles. It would be even better if they could shave another 30+ LBS off it. ARE YOU LISTENING TRIUMPH!!!!!

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]]> By: Nate http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/10/three-new-triumphs-for-2012-include-tiger-explorer-1200/comment-page-1/#comment-30771 Nate Thu, 27 Oct 2011 18:50:11 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=18257#comment-30771 Dude. I want that McQueen bike so freakin' bad. Dude.

I want that McQueen bike so freakin’ bad.

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]]> By: Goose http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/10/three-new-triumphs-for-2012-include-tiger-explorer-1200/comment-page-1/#comment-30766 Goose Thu, 27 Oct 2011 17:27:11 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=18257#comment-30766 I have add my voice to the people who wonder what this based on. I have nothing against cruisers (I own a "touring cruiser" and enjoy it very much) but Triumph already has all the bikes you describe, I rode a Rocket Three tourer and the new Storm several weeks ago. Not something I would buy but very nice for what they were intended to be. On the other hand, the adventure touring market has been growing for 30 years since BMW released the R80GS. In my mind the these bikes are somewhat like mini van and a sport utility. You can get about the same function from a standard motorcycle but standards don't sell and adventure tourers sell fairly well. Just like an SUV is pretty much a mini van with macho styling. The mini van and the SUV are about the same thing but the your buddies won't make house husband jokes if you show up driving and SUV. Very, very few take SUVs or big adventure tourers off road. If you really wanted to go off road you's have a 650 single or a Jeep. I can't imagine a solo rider getting an R1200GS, a Tenere or this bike out of a mud hole without a crane. Goose I have add my voice to the people who wonder what this based on.

I have nothing against cruisers (I own a “touring cruiser” and enjoy it very much) but Triumph already has all the bikes you describe, I rode a Rocket Three tourer and the new Storm several weeks ago. Not something I would buy but very nice for what they were intended to be.

On the other hand, the adventure touring market has been growing for 30 years since BMW released the R80GS. In my mind the these bikes are somewhat like mini van and a sport utility. You can get about the same function from a standard motorcycle but standards don’t sell and adventure tourers sell fairly well. Just like an SUV is pretty much a mini van with macho styling. The mini van and the SUV are about the same thing but the your buddies won’t make house husband jokes if you show up driving and SUV.

Very, very few take SUVs or big adventure tourers off road. If you really wanted to go off road you’s have a 650 single or a Jeep. I can’t imagine a solo rider getting an R1200GS, a Tenere or this bike out of a mud hole without a crane.

Goose

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]]> By: BoxerFanatic http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/10/three-new-triumphs-for-2012-include-tiger-explorer-1200/comment-page-1/#comment-30737 BoxerFanatic Wed, 26 Oct 2011 20:20:59 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=18257#comment-30737 What happens in 2031, when 2011 bikes are 20 years old, and a bike that is 10-15 years old in 2011, is 35 years old? Speaking of Superhawks, I have considered it, as I have a Hawk GT myself, and want something a bit larger, and half-faired. I was GREATLY disappointed that nothing happened to succeed the Superhawk from the NAS1000 concept which was years ago. VFR isn't bad, but it isn't the lithe bike it used to be, and is a commitment to buy a brand new bike loaded with a lot of potentially expensive tech to support that Honda hasn't produced before. That is one of the reasons that I like the BMW R-series over the K-S and bigger K-GT. Simpler, while still being well engineered where it counts. If product diversity suffers now with new bikes, it effects the future, not just the present. The present now becomes the past later. It is intriguing to me that people talk about the motorcycling demographic getting sharply older, yet the product lines focus a lot on the harley or cruiser crowd, popular with predominantly 50+ year olds, some dual-sport, like this new Tiger shows... and super bikes that are usually the realm of the 20-something that doesn't mind the brutal ergos, because they usually don't ride very far very often. What high profile new bikes besides the big dual-sport bikes like Tiger, BMW GS, or Duc Multi-strada, V-Strom, are really targeted toward the 30-49 age group who want something a bit more practical than a super bike, and a bit more enthusiastic than a cruiser? The Speed Triple might count there, but as I said... I wish it had a half fairing to moderate the air drag and noise on the rider's torso. What happens in 2031, when 2011 bikes are 20 years old, and a bike that is 10-15 years old in 2011, is 35 years old?

Speaking of Superhawks, I have considered it, as I have a Hawk GT myself, and want something a bit larger, and half-faired. I was GREATLY disappointed that nothing happened to succeed the Superhawk from the NAS1000 concept which was years ago.

VFR isn’t bad, but it isn’t the lithe bike it used to be, and is a commitment to buy a brand new bike loaded with a lot of potentially expensive tech to support that Honda hasn’t produced before. That is one of the reasons that I like the BMW R-series over the K-S and bigger K-GT. Simpler, while still being well engineered where it counts.

If product diversity suffers now with new bikes, it effects the future, not just the present. The present now becomes the past later.

It is intriguing to me that people talk about the motorcycling demographic getting sharply older, yet the product lines focus a lot on the harley or cruiser crowd, popular with predominantly 50+ year olds, some dual-sport, like this new Tiger shows… and super bikes that are usually the realm of the 20-something that doesn’t mind the brutal ergos, because they usually don’t ride very far very often.

What high profile new bikes besides the big dual-sport bikes like Tiger, BMW GS, or Duc Multi-strada, V-Strom, are really targeted toward the 30-49 age group who want something a bit more practical than a super bike, and a bit more enthusiastic than a cruiser?

The Speed Triple might count there, but as I said… I wish it had a half fairing to moderate the air drag and noise on the rider’s torso.

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]]> By: Jeremy in TX http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/10/three-new-triumphs-for-2012-include-tiger-explorer-1200/comment-page-1/#comment-30732 Jeremy in TX Wed, 26 Oct 2011 16:46:10 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=18257#comment-30732 Adventure bikes have been a rage for a while now, and BMW has been the only serious contender. There is plenty of room in that market. The Japanese haven't taken it seriously until just recently (Yamaha at least), and Triumph is taking a solid stab at it. Cruiser market? Every manufacturer is fighting for the 25% of the market that Harley Davidson doesn't command. I'm not saying that there isn't money to be made in it, but but Hinckley has some cruiser models already going up against a plethora of competitive products. There is less competition in the adventure bikes, and it is hot right now with good margins and a large accessory business to go with it. Adventure bikes have been a rage for a while now, and BMW has been the only serious contender. There is plenty of room in that market. The Japanese haven’t taken it seriously until just recently (Yamaha at least), and Triumph is taking a solid stab at it.

Cruiser market? Every manufacturer is fighting for the 25% of the market that Harley Davidson doesn’t command. I’m not saying that there isn’t money to be made in it, but but Hinckley has some cruiser models already going up against a plethora of competitive products. There is less competition in the adventure bikes, and it is hot right now with good margins and a large accessory business to go with it.

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]]> By: Scott in the UK http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/10/three-new-triumphs-for-2012-include-tiger-explorer-1200/comment-page-1/#comment-30730 Scott in the UK Wed, 26 Oct 2011 16:11:27 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=18257#comment-30730 I thought Harley had cruisers all sewn up? If so, it makes sense for Triumph to go after a market that Harley doesn't have a snoballs chance of entering - such as supersports, or adventure. I thought Harley had cruisers all sewn up? If so, it makes sense for Triumph to go after a market that Harley doesn’t have a snoballs chance of entering – such as supersports, or adventure.

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]]> By: Justin http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/10/three-new-triumphs-for-2012-include-tiger-explorer-1200/comment-page-1/#comment-30722 Justin Wed, 26 Oct 2011 14:21:44 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=18257#comment-30722 Why oh why does the Explorer not have a removable subframe? It's probably the most likely bike to get dropped (if used as intended). It would only make sense to put a removable subframe on it. Gonna be pricey when it gets torn up. Why oh why does the Explorer not have a removable subframe? It’s probably the most likely bike to get dropped (if used as intended). It would only make sense to put a removable subframe on it. Gonna be pricey when it gets torn up.

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]]> By: tla http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/10/three-new-triumphs-for-2012-include-tiger-explorer-1200/comment-page-1/#comment-30658 tla Wed, 26 Oct 2011 00:12:02 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=18257#comment-30658 haha! haha!

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