Comments on: Drift HD170 Stealth POV Camera: MD Product Review (News) (Product Reviews)

By: Ninou

Ninou — Tue, 27 Dec 2011 18:04:57 +0000

The bulk was a common gripe about this camera compared to the competition. This is exactly why they came out with the smaller Drift HD. Smaller is better when it comes to cameras and motorcycles.
I’m about to pull the trigger on one of those babies (Drift HD) but will probably wait for your review if it comes soon.
It’s not perfect but it is actually pretty good. They all have their shortcomings.
You have 2 main options really: the all in one, like the Drift, the GoPro, the Contour or the Replay XD
Or there is the bullet cam + DVR combo, like the IOV POV, the 4Kam or HD-Pro Radcam.
The second option is usually higher quality (separate DVR), letting you place the tiny bullet cam virtually anywhere on the bike or yourself. But you need to find a place for the DVR and run the cable from the cam to the DVR. It’s good if you are going to install it more or less permanently on one bike. It can be a pretty cool set up, with the DVR in full view on a handlebar mount, allowing you to check the live footage on the control screen and remotely operate the cam, with no doubt whatsoever as to whether the cam is recording or not.
For portability and ease of use, the all-in-one is better. I’m between the Replay HD 1080 and the Drift HD in that segment. The replay has a lot going for it. The video quality, especially transitions from shadow to bright spaces, is better than the Drift HD, not to mention an absence of fish eye effect. It is tiny and has a really good haptic feedback that lets you with no doubt at to which action you are performing when pressing its buttons without looking. But here lies a contradiction for me: its tiny size lets you place it anywhere on the bike but it does not have a remote and its “interface” is geared towards the helmet cam paradigm: pressing buttons without looking. If you purposely make the cam small enough to be place anywhere on a bike, you would always include a wireless remote in my view.
That wireless remote (with no need for a line of sight as it is HF and not IR) is a big plus of the Drift HD.
It does however have a flaw: it does not come with a LED to let you know if the cam is really on or not. That would be great for when the cam is out of sight. Nothing more frustrating that you were not recording a the end of the ride…
I know that there is an optional LED. But it is wired and you need to plug it at the back of the cam and run the cable to wherever you want to place the LED. It really strikes me as a cumbersome afterthought. On top of that, if you use that optional LED, you cannot power the cam from an external power pack since the mini USB port is taken by the LED. That’s too bad since the optional external power pack lets you run the cam for a full 20 hours! That’s a nice option I think.
On the plus side again the 4X digital zoom goes a long way in alleviate the fish eye effect problem, although this comes at the expense of video quality unfortunately.
The control screen is also a big plus obviously, as is the external mic input.
Video quality let a little to be desired compared to the GoPro or Replay XD. It can clearly be seen on your ZX14R review in the transition from shade to bright. It really struggles to adjust to the bright conditions.

It’s not perfect but it is the one I’m leaning towards at the moment after reviewing the various options. I’m curious to read your review of the Drift HD.

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By: Dirck Edge

Dirck Edge — Tue, 27 Dec 2011 16:43:26 +0000

Drift has waterproof cases available for both size cameras.

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By: Vroooom

Vroooom — Tue, 27 Dec 2011 16:05:51 +0000

The main disadvantage I see to this vs. the Go Pro is the lack of waterproofing. Not an issue most of the time, unless you live in the Northwest. Still, a nice looking product with good looking video.

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By: vitesse

vitesse — Mon, 26 Dec 2011 14:42:38 +0000

Adding the video ride along to the test of the 2012 ZX-14R really made the review much more meaningful (and enjoyable) for me. And reviewing this camcorder used in the test was icing on the cake as recently I’ve been wondering if there were any alternatives to the product that seems most popular out there.

The video certainly enhances the write up and hope it can continue with future articles.

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By: Aftermarket opportunity

Aftermarket opportunity — Sun, 25 Dec 2011 17:54:14 +0000

With a replaceable lens at least there is a chance for them or a 3rd party to come out with lenses and filters for it. Not even an option on most of the competition. Even better, if they start stealing market from the others maybe they’ll step up and make units with more optical versatility to get that market back.

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By: Dirck Edge

Dirck Edge — Sat, 24 Dec 2011 22:47:53 +0000

It is pretty small. The top photo adds an inch or so for the external mic cover. The smaller cam is tiny. Size is not an issue for our use on the helmet or the bike.

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By: Ninou

Ninou — Sat, 24 Dec 2011 15:58:03 +0000

It might not be a “mini barn door” but it’s frankly huge compared to the competition. The smaller one has a more reasonable size.
It seems to be a pretty good camera.
It caught my attention when I saw that it had a replaceable lens. I thought that would allow for different POV angles with different lenses. Alas, this is only in case you break a lens. There’s only one lens available, the world distorting 170 wide angle. That’s my beef with all those cameras. They all have ridiculously wide POV angles. That’s fine if you want to film the scenery, but if you want to film your buddy in front of you, it looks like he is 1 mile down the road when you actually almost riding in his top case.
They say you can use the 4X digital zoom to counter this effect. I wonder if it works and what the trade-off is…
The new Go-Pro Hero 2 actually allow for 3 different POV angles, from 90º to 170º.

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By: MGNorge

MGNorge — Sat, 24 Dec 2011 13:29:23 +0000

I use a Kodak Zi8 “Barn Door” HD mini cam which I mount to a suction mount on my Norge’s tank. It is a pocket type cam with LCD and external mic input. It works very well except I have not yet devised a suitable helmet mount which would surely open up the variety of shots besides straight ahead. Also, because of its shape it is not very aerodynamic but I think I spent no more than $150 for it and a quality stereo external mic.

This cam interests me because it combines the very features I saw in the Kodak with a more suitable form factor for bike recording.

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By: AndrewF

AndrewF — Fri, 23 Dec 2011 21:55:47 +0000

I’m very interested in mounting this camera on the tank, I hope you’ll cover this subject in that promised next article!

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