Comments on: Valentino Rossi: More Success on Four Wheels Than Two, of Late (News) http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/12/valentino-rossi-more-success-on-four-wheels-than-two-of-late/ Motorcycle News, Editorials, Product Reviews and Bike Reviews Tue, 21 May 2013 06:30:14 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.2 By: Dean http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/12/valentino-rossi-more-success-on-four-wheels-than-two-of-late/comment-page-1/#comment-33064 Dean Thu, 08 Dec 2011 01:59:22 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=18910#comment-33064 You can buy a Ford Focus here, but it won't be a Turbo 4-cylinder making 300-400 hp, pushed through a sequencial manual transmission and driving all four wheels! Just like you can buy a version of any Nascar car, but they don't come with roll cages! Closest you can get to that kind of car in the U.S. is a Subaru WRX (several versions available) and Mitsubishi EVO. I think Suzuki was coming out with a small 4-wheel drive car too. I have a 2005 Subaru WRX, 230hp turbo, 5-speed manual to the 4-wheel drive. Factory stock. It is a blast to drive, and when you can get all 4 wheels broke loose, it drifts the back out like an old rear wheel drive car. So much fun... I call it my four wheel motorcycle because it is the most fun to drive next to my bikes! You can buy a Ford Focus here, but it won’t be a Turbo 4-cylinder making 300-400 hp, pushed through a sequencial manual transmission and driving all four wheels! Just like you can buy a version of any Nascar car, but they don’t come with roll cages!

Closest you can get to that kind of car in the U.S. is a Subaru WRX (several versions available) and Mitsubishi EVO. I think Suzuki was coming out with a small 4-wheel drive car too.

I have a 2005 Subaru WRX, 230hp turbo, 5-speed manual to the 4-wheel drive. Factory stock. It is a blast to drive, and when you can get all 4 wheels broke loose, it drifts the back out like an old rear wheel drive car. So much fun… I call it my four wheel motorcycle because it is the most fun to drive next to my bikes!

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]]> By: Dave http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/12/valentino-rossi-more-success-on-four-wheels-than-two-of-late/comment-page-1/#comment-33032 Dave Wed, 07 Dec 2011 18:40:45 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=18910#comment-33032 I can't either. As another poster points out above, going from two wheels to four is more natural because it's easier to be competitive in a car at an older age. It would also be an extraordinary circumstance for someone who reached the professional level in auto racing to arrange a switch to moto that didn't result in a big pay-cut. I can’t either. As another poster points out above, going from two wheels to four is more natural because it’s easier to be competitive in a car at an older age. It would also be an extraordinary circumstance for someone who reached the professional level in auto racing to arrange a switch to moto that didn’t result in a big pay-cut.

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]]> By: Scotty http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/12/valentino-rossi-more-success-on-four-wheels-than-two-of-late/comment-page-1/#comment-32995 Scotty Wed, 07 Dec 2011 06:03:52 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=18910#comment-32995 They are based on production model but obviously heavily modified by M-Sport in Cockermouth, Cumbria UK. Malcom Wilson is the CEO - I know someone who works there and it is a dream job for a young mechanic like him. I think 400hp but not sure.. They are based on production model but obviously heavily modified by M-Sport in Cockermouth, Cumbria UK. Malcom Wilson is the CEO – I know someone who works there and it is a dream job for a young mechanic like him. I think 400hp but not sure..

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]]> By: R*Rocket http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/12/valentino-rossi-more-success-on-four-wheels-than-two-of-late/comment-page-1/#comment-32981 R*Rocket Tue, 06 Dec 2011 23:16:17 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=18910#comment-32981 Give me a break about Schumacher being savagely fast on two wheels. It's one thing to do a hot lap, it's another to race. When he entered the German SBK series (a domestic series, let alone a world series) he qualified near the back (39 out of 40 riders). And finished 28th. And plenty of crashing along the way. Give me a break about Schumacher being savagely fast on two wheels. It’s one thing to do a hot lap, it’s another to race. When he entered the German SBK series (a domestic series, let alone a world series) he qualified near the back (39 out of 40 riders). And finished 28th. And plenty of crashing along the way.

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]]> By: Morris Bethoven http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/12/valentino-rossi-more-success-on-four-wheels-than-two-of-late/comment-page-1/#comment-32970 Morris Bethoven Tue, 06 Dec 2011 18:12:54 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=18910#comment-32970 Thanks for reminding me about Schu. That is one talented driver/rider! Thanks for reminding me about Schu. That is one talented driver/rider!

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]]> By: Marc http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/12/valentino-rossi-more-success-on-four-wheels-than-two-of-late/comment-page-1/#comment-32969 Marc Tue, 06 Dec 2011 17:33:58 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=18910#comment-32969 @Morris, Schumaker was savagely fast on a motorcycle, about 5 seconds off of Pedrosa's lap record at Valencia on a *guest lap* on Stoner's Ducati GP7. Not bad for a 38yo on someone else's 800cc GP bike with little or no practice. Unfortunately, age is more of a factor on 2 wheels and he waited (likely due to fear of the costs of an injury to his F1 career) until very late, so we'll never see him compete at top levels at this point. All of these guys are superhuman. @Morris, Schumaker was savagely fast on a motorcycle, about 5 seconds off of Pedrosa’s lap record at Valencia on a *guest lap* on Stoner’s Ducati GP7. Not bad for a 38yo on someone else’s 800cc GP bike with little or no practice. Unfortunately, age is more of a factor on 2 wheels and he waited (likely due to fear of the costs of an injury to his F1 career) until very late, so we’ll never see him compete at top levels at this point.

All of these guys are superhuman.

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]]> By: RD http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/12/valentino-rossi-more-success-on-four-wheels-than-two-of-late/comment-page-1/#comment-32968 RD Tue, 06 Dec 2011 17:13:30 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=18910#comment-32968 Who is up to Loebs Standards?? There both GODS among mortal men IMO..... Who is up to Loebs Standards?? There both GODS among mortal men IMO…..

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]]> By: E-Ticket http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/12/valentino-rossi-more-success-on-four-wheels-than-two-of-late/comment-page-1/#comment-32966 E-Ticket Tue, 06 Dec 2011 16:42:56 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=18910#comment-32966 When you're good ... you're goood. And traction is traction. *Major* props to Rossi for his amazing accomplishments for just "guest driving" in F1 and the rally cars. To be able to drive that good from the start is just phenomenal. But. This "rally car racing" did not have any trees. Or rocks. Or dirt. Or mud. Of blind corners. And definitely no + 100 mph blind "yumps" followed by an "acute right with exposure." And that is a totally different world. It not only takes skill but a huge accumulation of experience over time. Just the same. I'd love to see Rossi jump to the WRC after he's done with the mo-mo's. It'd be a gas. On, on!! Cheers, E-Ticket When you’re good … you’re goood. And traction is traction.
*Major* props to Rossi for his amazing accomplishments for just “guest driving” in F1 and the rally cars. To be able to drive that good from the start is just phenomenal.

But. This “rally car racing” did not have any trees. Or rocks. Or dirt. Or mud. Of blind corners. And definitely no + 100 mph blind “yumps” followed by an “acute right with exposure.”

And that is a totally different world. It not only takes skill but a huge accumulation of experience over time.

Just the same. I’d love to see Rossi jump to the WRC after he’s done with the mo-mo’s.
It’d be a gas. On, on!!

Cheers, E-Ticket

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]]> By: Morris Bethoven http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/12/valentino-rossi-more-success-on-four-wheels-than-two-of-late/comment-page-1/#comment-32960 Morris Bethoven Tue, 06 Dec 2011 13:43:19 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=18910#comment-32960 It always nice to see a bike racer excel in two different racing disciplines. Bike racers have successfully crossed over into car racing, but how car racers have moved over to become successful in bike racing? I can't think of one. It always nice to see a bike racer excel in two different racing disciplines. Bike racers have successfully crossed over into car racing, but how car racers have moved over to become successful in bike racing? I can’t think of one.

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]]> By: tiremelter http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/12/valentino-rossi-more-success-on-four-wheels-than-two-of-late/comment-page-1/#comment-32959 tiremelter Tue, 06 Dec 2011 13:08:04 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=18910#comment-32959 Good Point Scott... No way he can compete when they are full bore... much of the win is from the copilot anyway. Good Point Scott… No way he can compete when they are full bore… much of the win is from the copilot anyway.

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