Comments on: 2013 Victory Judge: MD First Ride (Bike Reports) (News)

By: HalfBaked

HalfBaked — Wed, 22 Feb 2012 04:28:10 +0000

What does looking like a Greyhound taking a dump even mean.

By: HalfBaked

HalfBaked — Wed, 22 Feb 2012 04:21:35 +0000

The ’78 RM125 and the most recent model were virtually identical in terms of weight. The latest RM had about 50% more horsepower but that wouldn’t make a sub 200 lb bike feel “heavy as hell” by any means. Maintaining a 2-stroke MXer and a modern 250F don’t even compare the cost of the 4 stroke is much more expensive and time consuming.

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By: dannytheman

dannytheman — Mon, 20 Feb 2012 16:08:48 +0000

I am not sure I get what you are trying to say? You would prefer to have 1978 RM125 today? Drum brakes, heavy as hell?
My point was that Harley has made the important changes that needed to be made and still look like the harley. Same as a Corvette/Chevelle/Charger look similar to the old one, but have all the advancements of modern technology. If you would prefer to stay with using a carburetor and changing rings all the time go for it. I used to change the rings after every race, then every second time add a piston. Nightmare.

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By: takehikes

takehikes — Mon, 20 Feb 2012 12:51:26 +0000

I’ve said for a long time that I like the victory after I rode one. I will look real hard at it the next time I buy. So far as taking wind out of HD”s sails it’s a tough nut. Victory will have a better chance than most being American made and that is exactly one of the reasons why I’ll be looking hard at it to support US.
As regards getting around HD’s perceived value and greatness it’s almost impossible. Example: I own a sweet Yamaha Road Star that I have heavily modified, it’s a damn fine cruiser (once I took about 100 pounds off of it), powerful and reliable. Yet when folks ask me what I ride they kind of shrug their shoulders….until I tell them I have a early 70′s HD Sportster then they light up. Not guys that really know anything about motorcycles but the public and the wannabe’s that might buy. yet in the real world no one, including me, would take that Sporty over the Roadie. So it’s all about perception and right now Victory has a hole card and that is being an American company. If they play on that, keep improving and giving rides they will continue to make inroads. I still don’t get why they bought Indian though.

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By: mr_dirtrider

mr_dirtrider — Sun, 19 Feb 2012 23:42:02 +0000

Yeah, the difference in the car analogy is that those cars actually are 40 years old. I’d like to have my 1978 RM125 back, but I don’t want a brand new air cooled dual shocked MX bike.

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By: sliphorn

sliphorn — Sun, 19 Feb 2012 22:10:25 +0000

Nice looking bike, but for me I’d prefer the riders triangle to be more standard-esque. Closer to the Bonneville T-100, I guess. A seat height in the 30 to 32 inch range, foot pegs further back than the Judge, and bars a tad closer. All in all though, the Judge is a nice looking bike. The great thing about the old standards? It was easy to make ‘em your own with accessories and what not.

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By: Mike Simmons

Mike Simmons — Sun, 19 Feb 2012 21:14:05 +0000

Indian wannabee? I have no such bike.

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By: dannytheman

dannytheman — Sun, 19 Feb 2012 16:56:25 +0000

Thank you, you are indeed correct!!! My misstatement!

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By: paul246

paul246 — Sun, 19 Feb 2012 10:48:59 +0000

No need to apologize, we’re just glad that you’re happy riding your Indian wannabee.