Comments on: Honda Goes Electric Racing (Bike Reports) (News) http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2012/02/honda-goes-electric-racing/ Motorcycle News, Editorials, Product Reviews and Bike Reviews Sat, 25 May 2013 06:24:43 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.2 By: Norm G. http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2012/02/honda-goes-electric-racing/comment-page-1/#comment-36957 Norm G. Sun, 04 Mar 2012 15:35:13 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=20031#comment-36957 re: "Its the distance that is the weakness of these things." there's another weakness and it's the greatest of all... SOUND. not to say it can't be overcome, whether it's harley's 45 degree potato, a 90 degree ducati RVT, screaming GSXR I4, buzzing triumph parallel twins/triples, zing of a 2-stroke aprilia, or the grandprix "staccato" of yamaha's first ever crossplane, the sound (and equally important, engine character) is what seperates us from the homogenized world of car-side. there have been many opportunities over the past few years to ride laguna, but with having to fit stock exhaust due to noise restrictions, for me it's like an "antidote for viagra"...? again, that's just me. re: “Its the distance that is the weakness of these things.”

there’s another weakness and it’s the greatest of all… SOUND.

not to say it can’t be overcome, whether it’s harley’s 45 degree potato, a 90 degree ducati RVT, screaming GSXR I4, buzzing triumph parallel twins/triples, zing of a 2-stroke aprilia, or the grandprix “staccato” of yamaha’s first ever crossplane, the sound (and equally important, engine character) is what seperates us from the homogenized world of car-side. there have been many opportunities over the past few years to ride laguna, but with having to fit stock exhaust due to noise restrictions, for me it’s like an “antidote for viagra”…? again, that’s just me.

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]]> By: Reagan http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2012/02/honda-goes-electric-racing/comment-page-1/#comment-36944 Reagan Sat, 03 Mar 2012 22:45:50 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=20031#comment-36944 Ok gentelman, it appears these production e-bikes are producing approx. 30 HP. There fore one must conclude that they are inferior to gasoline powered motorcles until proven otherwise. Ok gentelman, it appears these production e-bikes are producing approx. 30 HP. There fore one must conclude that they are inferior to gasoline powered motorcles until proven otherwise.

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]]> By: donniedarko http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2012/02/honda-goes-electric-racing/comment-page-1/#comment-36934 donniedarko Sat, 03 Mar 2012 03:12:47 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=20031#comment-36934 Thought you guys might dig this... Look how this pulls against a near works spec BMW SR1000 http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/racing/lightning-electric-superbike-bmw-s1000rr-video/ Thought you guys might dig this… Look how this pulls against a near works spec BMW SR1000
http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/racing/lightning-electric-superbike-bmw-s1000rr-video/

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]]> By: bill http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2012/02/honda-goes-electric-racing/comment-page-1/#comment-36932 bill Fri, 02 Mar 2012 23:32:00 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=20031#comment-36932 I had a test drive on a 2011 Zero, I was impressed with the speed and agility of the bike.Gas is around 5 dollars a gallon here in ontario Canada, and said it will be going even higher. The distributors of Zero told me a brushless motor for 2012s will be coming out with 100 mile range and a top speed of about 80 miles an hour. This is just the start of electric motorcycles just remember where gas engines were a hundred years ago. I say bring it on the hell with oil companys. I had a test drive on a 2011 Zero, I was impressed with the speed and agility of the bike.Gas is around 5 dollars a gallon here in ontario Canada, and said it will be going even higher. The distributors of Zero told me a brushless motor for 2012s will be coming out with 100 mile range and a top speed of about 80 miles an hour. This is just the start of electric motorcycles just remember where gas engines were a hundred years ago. I say bring it on the hell with oil companys.

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]]> By: donniedarko http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2012/02/honda-goes-electric-racing/comment-page-1/#comment-36908 donniedarko Fri, 02 Mar 2012 01:43:45 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=20031#comment-36908 An aquaintance I know who runs a electric modified R1 runs 60hp BUT with 70 nm of torque at all rpm. The TTXGP bike I know of runs 101rwhp but 210 ft lbs of torque with a 10kW battery. Google Ripperton and you can see yourslf. The bikes I were mentioning at tracks are MX bikes. The lack of noise is allowing them to be ridden near neighbohoods in Italy. Electric bikes arent to be scoffed at power wise. Chip Yates runs his electric bike that would be near middle of the pack AMA race times on his electro bike. Its the distance that is the weakness of these things. My buddies Zero MX bike had 30hp and 60ft lbs tq. Weighed I think 215lbs. Just had mechanical issues frequently. I dont know if I would buy an electric bike but when the tech gets more solid I'd consider it An aquaintance I know who runs a electric modified R1 runs 60hp BUT with 70 nm of torque at all rpm. The TTXGP bike I know of runs 101rwhp but 210 ft lbs of torque with a 10kW battery. Google Ripperton and you can see yourslf.

The bikes I were mentioning at tracks are MX bikes. The lack of noise is allowing them to be ridden near neighbohoods in Italy.

Electric bikes arent to be scoffed at power wise. Chip Yates runs his electric bike that would be near middle of the pack AMA race times on his electro bike.

Its the distance that is the weakness of these things. My buddies Zero MX bike had 30hp and 60ft lbs tq. Weighed I think 215lbs. Just had mechanical issues frequently. I dont know if I would buy an electric bike but when the tech gets more solid I’d consider it

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]]> By: Reagan http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2012/02/honda-goes-electric-racing/comment-page-1/#comment-36901 Reagan Fri, 02 Mar 2012 00:31:28 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=20031#comment-36901 Just read Motorcycle.Coms reveiw of Zero DS electric bike. Here are some highlites. HP 29.2. Run time estimated by editor 50 miles. Recharge time 3 to 6 hours. Avaiabity of recharging station none announced. Cost to purchase $11,500-$14,000. This is the newest, latest and greatest of Zero Motors. Is this a viable and competative motorcycle? Also think about two new studies explaining how producting electricy to propel an e-bike is more filth producing than burning gasoline in a combustion engine of equal size. Just read Motorcycle.Coms reveiw of Zero DS electric bike. Here are some highlites. HP 29.2. Run time estimated by editor 50 miles. Recharge time 3 to 6 hours. Avaiabity of recharging station none announced. Cost to purchase $11,500-$14,000. This is the newest, latest and greatest of Zero Motors. Is this a viable and competative motorcycle? Also think about two new studies explaining how producting electricy to propel an e-bike is more filth producing than burning gasoline in a combustion engine of equal size.

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]]> By: Reagan http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2012/02/honda-goes-electric-racing/comment-page-1/#comment-36899 Reagan Thu, 01 Mar 2012 23:57:43 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=20031#comment-36899 Hello Mr Darko, What is the HP and tourque that these wonderful e-bikes produce, please be specific. Hello Mr Darko, What is the HP and tourque that these wonderful e-bikes produce, please be specific.

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]]> By: donniedarko http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2012/02/honda-goes-electric-racing/comment-page-1/#comment-36889 donniedarko Thu, 01 Mar 2012 16:20:19 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=20031#comment-36889 Theres moto x tracks very close to cities where noise was an issue that now electro bikes run at no worries. For my commuting and type of riding I do Id rock one. I just heard they are tempermental and expense. I had a buddy who had a Zero bike and he used to ride all around the hills near Santa Monica said it was super fun, but there was mechanical issues frequently I look forward to see how the evolve... and to those who say they dont go like real bikes look at the nascent efforts at the IoM event. Pretty solid speeds :fact Theres moto x tracks very close to cities where noise was an issue that now electro bikes run at no worries.

For my commuting and type of riding I do Id rock one. I just heard they are tempermental and expense. I had a buddy who had a Zero bike and he used to ride all around the hills near Santa Monica said it was super fun, but there was mechanical issues frequently

I look forward to see how the evolve… and to those who say they dont go like real bikes look at the nascent efforts at the IoM event. Pretty solid speeds :fact

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]]> By: Dave http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2012/02/honda-goes-electric-racing/comment-page-1/#comment-36805 Dave Tue, 28 Feb 2012 18:12:29 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=20031#comment-36805 Possibly never. Why would they need any of those things to be viable? The key feature is that they will run on electricity at pennies per charge, not gasoline (I paid $50 for 14gal. of regular yesterday). All they need is ~50 mile range and for Gasoline to cost $5+ per gallon, which makes them viable almost everywhere in the world except for the US today. Possibly never. Why would they need any of those things to be viable? The key feature is that they will run on electricity at pennies per charge, not gasoline (I paid $50 for 14gal. of regular yesterday). All they need is ~50 mile range and for Gasoline to cost $5+ per gallon, which makes them viable almost everywhere in the world except for the US today.

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]]> By: ROXX http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2012/02/honda-goes-electric-racing/comment-page-1/#comment-36802 ROXX Tue, 28 Feb 2012 15:12:38 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=20031#comment-36802 Like I said before, Honda would sell a ton of these if they had a gas powered motor. Like I said before, Honda would sell a ton of these if they had a gas powered motor.

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