Comments on: Oberdan Bezzi Suggests Indian Design to Polaris (Bike Reports) (News) http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2012/02/oberdan-bezzi-suggests-indian-design-to-polaris/ Motorcycle News, Editorials, Product Reviews and Bike Reviews Sat, 25 May 2013 16:35:03 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.2 By: Trpldog http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2012/02/oberdan-bezzi-suggests-indian-design-to-polaris/comment-page-1/#comment-36501 Trpldog Mon, 20 Feb 2012 19:02:42 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=19924#comment-36501 How about filling the void that Buell left! I had both an XB9 and the XB12. They really were excellent bikes - once set up correctly. The XB series was stone reliable. My XB12 had shoulder-seperating torque, low CG, and with it's steep rake, turned corners like a rabbit wearing running shoes. On a tight twisty road, while my friends R1 was trying to get to 12,000 rpm, Bueldog and I were long gone at 4,000 and 77 ft/lbs. Since Erik was booted by HD, I've since moved on to the Speed Triple, but would still like a XB12 in my garage for backup. A man cannot have too much torque. Cheers. How about filling the void that Buell left! I had both an XB9 and the XB12. They really were excellent bikes – once set up correctly. The XB series was stone reliable. My XB12 had shoulder-seperating torque, low CG, and with it’s steep rake, turned corners like a rabbit wearing running shoes. On a tight twisty road, while my friends R1 was trying to get to 12,000 rpm, Bueldog and I were long gone at 4,000 and 77 ft/lbs. Since Erik was booted by HD, I’ve since moved on to the Speed Triple, but would still like a XB12 in my garage for backup. A man cannot have too much torque.
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]]> By: Andrew http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2012/02/oberdan-bezzi-suggests-indian-design-to-polaris/comment-page-1/#comment-36239 Andrew Wed, 15 Feb 2012 01:26:41 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=19924#comment-36239 I wish Polaris would use the Indian name to build a 750 flat track bike for street and racing. Now that would be bringing Indian back from the dead! I wish Polaris would use the Indian name to build a 750 flat track bike for street and racing. Now that would be bringing Indian back from the dead!

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]]> By: Jeremy in TX http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2012/02/oberdan-bezzi-suggests-indian-design-to-polaris/comment-page-1/#comment-36200 Jeremy in TX Tue, 14 Feb 2012 13:46:43 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=19924#comment-36200 I'm just saying the above design, like the ZRX, harks back to an era of retro I don't care for. I’m just saying the above design, like the ZRX, harks back to an era of retro I don’t care for.

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]]> By: Jeremy in TX http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2012/02/oberdan-bezzi-suggests-indian-design-to-polaris/comment-page-1/#comment-36199 Jeremy in TX Tue, 14 Feb 2012 13:44:02 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=19924#comment-36199 I didn't say the ZRX wasn't a great bike. It was and still is. I just don't find it to be visually appealing. Not offensive, mind you, but it doesn't stir my soul either. I didn’t say the ZRX wasn’t a great bike. It was and still is. I just don’t find it to be visually appealing. Not offensive, mind you, but it doesn’t stir my soul either.

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]]> By: Scuby http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2012/02/oberdan-bezzi-suggests-indian-design-to-polaris/comment-page-1/#comment-36196 Scuby Tue, 14 Feb 2012 12:25:28 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=19924#comment-36196 But 98% of the riders out there are on cruisers.When I pull into a bike event on my Sprint 1050,I feel like an alien at a pirate convention.I guess that makes me a 2 percenter. But 98% of the riders out there are on cruisers.When I pull into a bike event on my Sprint 1050,I feel like an alien at a pirate convention.I guess that makes me a 2 percenter.

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]]> By: Scuby http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2012/02/oberdan-bezzi-suggests-indian-design-to-polaris/comment-page-1/#comment-36195 Scuby Tue, 14 Feb 2012 12:18:40 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=19924#comment-36195 Agreed.One of my ridding buds who buys a new bike every few years,only complains about selling one bike.His beloved XB12. Agreed.One of my ridding buds who buys a new bike every few years,only complains about selling one bike.His beloved XB12.

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]]> By: mark bremer http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2012/02/oberdan-bezzi-suggests-indian-design-to-polaris/comment-page-1/#comment-36188 mark bremer Tue, 14 Feb 2012 08:09:19 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=19924#comment-36188 Several years ago I communicated directly with the then new owners at Indian and suggested to them that they consider building a customer-racer engine package based on the XR750 HD that could compete in the then AMA Grand National Dirt Track Series. Same suggestion went to Polaris and even Briggs & Stratt....unfortunately choppers were still selling and the powers that were didn't get the connection...same thing with the suggestion that Indian take advantage of the Springfield Mass connection...there's still people up this way that remember the brand as they had parents and relatives that worked for Indian or a delaership. Most young people today no nothing about what made Indian and what made it famous..racing...and mostly dirt track racing. Several years ago I communicated directly with the then new owners at Indian and suggested to them that they consider building a customer-racer engine package based on the XR750 HD that could compete in the then AMA Grand National Dirt Track Series. Same suggestion went to Polaris and even Briggs & Stratt….unfortunately choppers were still selling and the powers that were didn’t get the connection…same thing with the suggestion that Indian take advantage of the Springfield Mass connection…there’s still people up this way that remember the brand as they had parents and relatives that worked for Indian or a delaership. Most young people today no nothing about what made Indian and what made it famous..racing…and mostly dirt track racing.

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]]> By: Z2 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2012/02/oberdan-bezzi-suggests-indian-design-to-polaris/comment-page-1/#comment-36176 Z2 Mon, 13 Feb 2012 22:28:59 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=19924#comment-36176 Well said, Asphanaut, well said. A perfect summation of HD, Polaris and the current owner of the Indian name. Well said, Asphanaut, well said. A perfect summation of HD, Polaris and the current owner of the Indian name.

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]]> By: Reinhart http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2012/02/oberdan-bezzi-suggests-indian-design-to-polaris/comment-page-1/#comment-36173 Reinhart Mon, 13 Feb 2012 21:45:20 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=19924#comment-36173 Every time I mention that Victory should offer something other than a cruiser style bike I get lots of backlash from the Victory crowd. Seems to me that building a sportbike/dual-purpose/standard WITH A WHOLE NEW ENGINE/TRANSMISSION package would be a successful venture for the #2 American bike builder. Even HD offers the Sportster, V-Rod and Big Twin with their unique powertain. I can't see Victory ever becoming more than an uncreative bike builder that relies on Arlen Mess to design it's overweight, awkward cruisers. I really would like to support Victory in their effort to become the #1 American bike builder, but they don't seem to possess the drive to think outside the box. It's time for them to quit exchanging handlebars and slapping on a new paint job to thrill their present customer base and go after the other 98% of the motorcyclists out there that would never be caught dead on a cruiser. Every time I mention that Victory should offer something other than a cruiser style bike I get lots of backlash from the Victory crowd. Seems to me that building a sportbike/dual-purpose/standard WITH A WHOLE NEW ENGINE/TRANSMISSION package would be a successful venture for the #2 American bike builder. Even HD offers the Sportster, V-Rod and Big Twin with their unique powertain. I can’t see Victory ever becoming more than an uncreative bike builder that relies on Arlen Mess to design it’s overweight, awkward cruisers. I really would like to support Victory in their effort to become the #1 American bike builder, but they don’t seem to possess the drive to think outside the box. It’s time for them to quit exchanging handlebars and slapping on a new paint job to thrill their present customer base and go after the other 98% of the motorcyclists out there that would never be caught dead on a cruiser.

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]]> By: Dave http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2012/02/oberdan-bezzi-suggests-indian-design-to-polaris/comment-page-1/#comment-36172 Dave Mon, 13 Feb 2012 21:43:14 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=19924#comment-36172 In that vein - Polaris/Victory/Indian should steal the playbook for the now defunct Buell Ulysses. Most every other manufacturer has a true standard or "adventure" bike that sure looks like a standard EXCEPT USA manufacturers. I say forget about the factory fake cafe racer and use the dependable engine/transmission in a taller, upright, comfortable standard/"adventure" frame with world-class suspension/brakes at an affordable price. In that vein – Polaris/Victory/Indian should steal the playbook for the now defunct Buell Ulysses. Most every other manufacturer has a true standard or “adventure” bike that sure looks like a standard EXCEPT USA manufacturers. I say forget about the factory fake cafe racer and use the dependable engine/transmission in a taller, upright, comfortable standard/”adventure” frame with world-class suspension/brakes at an affordable price.

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