Comments on: Motus Motorcycles Announces Dealers, Pricing and final Horsepower Numbers for 2013 Models (Bike Reports) (News)

By: britishbikes

britishbikes — Thu, 12 Apr 2012 00:12:53 +0000

This thing is a failure. A sport touring bike is a price point item, not so much a status machine. We ride because we like to ride, not because the bike we ride costs 18k more than a better bike. It isn’t like sportbikes where you want to walk though fire to get the best, or Harley where the bike is more than a bike. A sport touring bike is like a pickup truck in a way, we want a good one, but also good value, something we feel comfortable on 1200 miles from home while the rain pours down. I’m not sure how to explain this, but I feel it in my gut.

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By: f.fernandez

f.fernandez — Tue, 10 Apr 2012 09:09:43 +0000

well, doc, yes you got it right . i am lucky to be in the demographics for this bike and have been following it ,as i did the Indian when it first launched and then again on the second launch ,but never did get around to justify paying more than a harley. i ended up with the harley at very close to the indian price .but the hd was well sorted out .and it complimented my other bikes ,sports and sport tourers.
anyhow as i see this motus …….they will sell some but it will not be,unfortunately ,a repeat buss.,nor will it attract those that would spend $30 k for a harley cvo. different crowd.but one with the monies .
and unfortunately 99 % of the sports bike crowd do not have the means .
then there are the ducati riders who do have the means and will move in this direction. but even with the duc crowd how many do buy their top of the line models . the current economy will work against this bike . i will test ride it and we will see ????

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By: britishbikes

britishbikes — Mon, 09 Apr 2012 03:24:02 +0000

Well here we go. This cobbed together looking thing with those off the shelf looking exposed plastic secondary coils, the not direct injection, the engine that is sideways yet pulls a greasy chain. The puny fairing. The off the shelf saddle bags sticking way out there. No ABS. No traction control. Innovative new pushrods. I expected it to have rough edges that the big companies don’t have, but I was willing to overlook them and the meager touring accommodations. For 15 grand it would still be a hard sell: It really doesn’t hold a candle to a Connie 14 with its shaft, real saddle bags, ABS, TC,bigger fairing, reliability and dealer network. Probably have all sorts of little issues that would drive you nuts on a long trip. And that awkward looking motor just doesn’t have the finish or lines to be hung out there like that. Looks like something they took out of a tractor junkyard and stuck in a sportbike frame, like some Aussie would build in his garage. By himself. It looks too big to be there, not integrated. Think 1969 cb750. Then look at the Motus. Makes my eyes hurt to look at it. But I was willing to overlook all these things to buy an American bike. Maybe even pay a premium price of 18k for it. 30k and I’m thinking 402 hp Mustang GT! Even if I had 50K budget for a bike there is no way I’d spend 30k of it on an awkward parts bin bike like that. I’d feel like a loser.

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By: Norm G.

Norm G. — Sun, 01 Apr 2012 16:10:23 +0000

re: “To try and compare what Motus has built to a Veyron is delusional.”
re: “Comparing the Motus to a $670,000.00 Ferrari is akin to comparing a Kawasaki Versys to an RC213V, idiotic.”

wait, it just occured to me something MORE delusional and idiotic is occuring…?? you don’t know the definition of the word “analogy”…!? LOL how old are you…? tell the truth. i ask because a mature ADULT would know the subtle (but critical) difference between an analogy and a comparison. teenagers and many young adults would not.

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By: Norm G.

Norm G. — Sun, 01 Apr 2012 15:40:14 +0000

re: “I can only guess that you either work for Motus or have already put a deposit on one”

the correct answer is C.) none of the above.

re: “that’s the only thing I can come up with that justifies some of your laughable replies.”

see, the devaluing consumer mentality you’ve adopted the past 10 years now BLOCKS you from coming up with what is the simplest of answers. LOL ie. i’m just a person who likes motorcycles…! (PS: see entry for Occam’s Razor)

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By: JasonB

JasonB — Tue, 27 Mar 2012 23:05:10 +0000

I don’t care what cute little nickname you’ve come up with, that doesn’t change the FACT that this is the typical demographic that’s looking to purchase a sport tourer. And if you read my words you’ll see I use the word rider to refer to the category, not the purchaser. Sport touring bikes aren’t typically purchased with the intention of showing off at Starbucks at your local bike night or cruising up Mulholland, they’re purchased to ride.

I can only guess that you either work for Motus or have already put a deposit on one, that’s the only thing I can come up with that justifies some of your laughable replies. To try and compare what Motus has built to a Veyron is delusional. This is not a lightweight hypersport with gobs of horsepower and trickle down MotoGP electronics. It’s a fairly bland, slightly heavy motorcycle who’s most exciting feature is that it has a push rod v-four derived from an American classic car. Comparing the Motus to a $670,000.00 Ferrari is akin to comparing a Kawasaki Versys to an RC213V, idiotic. The buyer you’re describing in your posts for this bike do not exist, at least not in enough quantity to sustain the business model.

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By: Norm G.

Norm G. — Mon, 26 Mar 2012 01:35:20 +0000

re: “To cap that all off it’s one of the toughest segments with respect to shoppers, guys who will literally fly into a city 8 states away to save $500 and then ride the bike home. This is not an image category, it’s a riders category.”

sorry but what you’ve mistaken in modern day for a “rider”…? is nothing more than a “billionaire cheapskate”. that’s what we called them 10, 20, 30 years ago.

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By: Norm G.

Norm G. — Mon, 26 Mar 2012 01:08:05 +0000

re: “And the list goes on… It’s hard to push a new product into the market, but nearly impossible when that market is already saturated with a great variety of excellent offers at a much better price.”

porsche thought this about it’s 911, ferrari thought this about it’s enzo, aston thought this about it’s vantage, and lamborghini thought this about it’s murcielago. then along came bugatti (a marque with little in the way of modern history) with a price point of $1.7 million (more than double that of an enzo) and they sell out the first run of 300 cars. this begs the question, how can this be in a market saturated with a great variety of excellent offers at a much better price…?

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By: Norm G.

Norm G. — Mon, 26 Mar 2012 00:21:59 +0000

re: “Holy crap! Is MD read exclusively by CPAs and hourly financial advisers?”

actually gabe, the problem arises directly because they AREN’T cpa’s and hourly financial advisers. cpa’s and hfa’s understand how money works.

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By: Norm G.

Norm G. — Sun, 25 Mar 2012 17:06:25 +0000

re: “Is anyone here actually going to put the cash to buy one of these things???”

i think someone mentioned earlier, those individuals aren’t into the fantasy of the internet. those individuals are out living REALITY. kinda like the guy i see on any given day driving either 1 or his 2 R8′s, murcielago, gallardo, maybach, bentley coupe, or nissan GTR. if i had those cars, i wouldn’t be on the internet either…!? LOL

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