Comments on: Production Brammo Empulse and Empulse R Finally Break Cover (Bike Reports) (News)

By: MotoGraph

MotoGraph — Thu, 10 May 2012 17:40:06 +0000

You’re welcome! I know it must get pretty scary out there with all these conspiracy theories floating around.

By: Wayne

Wayne — Thu, 10 May 2012 17:37:03 +0000

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/health-science/electric-cars-may-not-be-so-green-after-all-says-british-study/story-e6frg8y6-1226073103576

Renewable energy is not as common sense as you think it is. Do you know that wind generation, considering the manufacturing process (heavy metal mining and all) is not very environmentally friendly at all.

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By: MotoGraph

MotoGraph — Thu, 10 May 2012 17:18:53 +0000

@Wayne

You crack me up. Climate-gate? Really? I don’t know if I should even waste time responding to someone so blindingly s#####. EVERYONE involved in the so-called Climage-gate email “scandal” were completely exonerated of any wrong doing by 4 separate independent investigations.

Not showing us their data? You’re kidding right? Or maybe you’re just ignoring it?

“Temperatures were higher during the Medieval Warming period than they are today. ”

WRONG – Look at this chart from what i’m sure is your favorite right wing “news” source. Even their own chart shows the temperatures being higher than during the medieval warming period and that was compared to 2004.
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/new-evidence-suggests-medieval-warming-period-was-global-proof-of-naturally-occurring-global-warming/

“And global temperatures have not risen in the past 12-15 years to spite increasing CO2 levels.”

WRONG again. I’m not sure where you pulled that one out of, but 12 of the last 15 years are the warmest years on record.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/11/29/us-climate-conference-idUSTRE7AS0MQ20111129

“Stop spewing the leftist talking points and learn the truth. I think you need to stop being such a sheeple and learn to do some critical thinking, even when it comes to leftist talking points.”

Amazing, I could have said the same exact thing to you, but about your right wing, denier talking points. It has nothing to do with left or right, it has to do with FACTS and DATA. That’s all I care about, and the data shows you’re wrong. I’m a sheeple because I look at data, and facts, from scientists, and come to my own conclusions? You listen to right wing “entertainers” masquerading as journalists and politicians paid off by big oil that tell you, oh yeah everything is fine, and you believe them at your and our peril

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By: JSH

JSH — Thu, 10 May 2012 17:13:01 +0000

Why does everyone talk about payoff or break-even points when talking about electric vehicles or hybrids? What is the break-even point for buying a ZX-10 instead of a ZX-6? How about a Ducati 1099 vs a ZX-10? What is the break even point for buying a V6 instead of the I4? How about leather seats vs cloth?

What is the point? People want different things and what is important to me might not be important to you. Manufacturers make products to fulfill those demands and right now Brammo (and their financial backers Polaris) are betting that enough people want an electric vehicle to make a profit. It doesn’t matter if it makes financial sense to you.

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By: Wayne

Wayne — Thu, 10 May 2012 17:06:01 +0000

Motograph – Where are energy needs supplied by 100% renewable power? I would not like to be dependent on that kind of generation mix. Too expensive and too intermittent. Most of the energy produced in this country, by far, is produced by coal.

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By: Tim

Tim — Thu, 10 May 2012 17:05:52 +0000

Coal isn’t nearly as dirty as it used to be. If you’re looking at emmissions rates from coal plants built in the 60′s…sure, it’s disgusting. But any coal plant that has been built in the last 10 years (or retrofitted with modern emissions controls), will be much much cleaner. The move to supercritical boilers and better AQCS equipment has done great things to help coal stay relevent. 1 modern coal plant powering 5000 electric cars, will produce FAR less pollution than 5000 gasoline powered cars.

So even if you get your power from dirty, smelly, smog producing coal, it’s still cleaner than an Accord in your garage.

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By: dukcfud

dukcfud — Thu, 10 May 2012 17:02:22 +0000

Well, stepping away from global warming and cost of gas, lets not forget the other aspects of riding e-bikes. Think of the maintenance. I ride, and love my ’10 Multistrada Touring, however I know that one day I’ll have to fork over a huge sum for service. Same goes for all bikes, my Aprilia is also not excluded (valves, throttle body syncs, oil changes, tons of moving parts that need adjustment or replacement, etc. etc.). Same goes for my 2-stroke KTM, carburetors are a pain in the butt. How many moving parts does a reciprocating electric motor have? How much will you spend on servicing one of these things? I sold Vectrix at one point, and while it was a bit still-born back in ’07 there were valid points those boys made. If I were to add another bike to the stable, I would love to have a bike like this thing to eat up those bruiser “not intended for fun” commuter miles so I can save the fun miles for my long distance bikes I’ll never get rid of.

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By: Wayne

Wayne — Thu, 10 May 2012 16:58:16 +0000

The actual facts do not support AGW or climate change or what ever today’s name is. Alarmists are relying on computer models. I know enough about computer models to know that they are only as good as the person who wrote them. They will often give the answer the programmer wants. And these computer programs have been wrong in their predictions time after time. That’s why they’ve scraped the term global warming for climate change. The global temperature has not been increasing as they predicted. Sea levels have not risen as predicted. Ice caps and glaciers have not disappeared as predicted, etc., etc., etc. These programs can’t even get it right when historical input is used to try to replicate the past.

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By: JSH

JSH — Thu, 10 May 2012 16:51:57 +0000

25-30% efficiency? Maybe power plants build 50 years ago. I had the opportunity to participate in the development of the GE 9FB gas turbine power plant 10 years ago. 59.3% efficient.

http://www.ge-energy.com/products_and_services/products/gas_turbines_heavy_duty/9fb_heavy_duty_gas_turbine.jsp

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By: MotoGraph

MotoGraph — Thu, 10 May 2012 16:51:22 +0000

@ Wayne

Your argument is flawed. Yes, the government spends more on renewables per mwh because there are less mwh being produced by renewables. However, the total amount spent on fossil fuels is still way more than renewables.

You still don’t explain why we should be subsidizing the most profitable industry in the history of the world?

http://www.eli.org/Program_Areas/innovation_governance_energy.cfm

http://www.eli.org/pdf/Energy_Subsidies_Black_Not_Green.pdf

“The federal government provided substantially larger subsidies to fossil fuels than to renewables. Subsidies to fossil fuels—a mature, developed industry that has enjoyed government support for many years—totaled approximately $72 billion over the study period, representing a direct cost to taxpayers.

Subsidies for renewable fuels, a relatively young and developing industry, totaled $29 billion over the same period.”

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