Comments on: European Market 2013 Kawasaki Ninja 300 Unveiled (with video) (Bike Reports) (News) http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2012/09/european-market-2013-kawasaki-ninja-300-unveiled-with-video/ Motorcycle News, Editorials, Product Reviews and Bike Reviews Wed, 22 May 2013 20:34:04 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.2 By: Norm G. http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2012/09/european-market-2013-kawasaki-ninja-300-unveiled-with-video/comment-page-1/#comment-62145 Norm G. Mon, 10 Sep 2012 15:39:38 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=23814#comment-62145 yeah, but the yanks INVENTED camaros and to this day actually go out and buy camaros. can't throw a rock without hittin' one. the ad is at best meant to be universal/cross market. yeah, but the yanks INVENTED camaros and to this day actually go out and buy camaros. can’t throw a rock without hittin’ one. the ad is at best meant to be universal/cross market.

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]]> By: Bill andrews http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2012/09/european-market-2013-kawasaki-ninja-300-unveiled-with-video/comment-page-1/#comment-61980 Bill andrews Mon, 10 Sep 2012 10:57:49 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=23814#comment-61980 Will this fit my KLX250SF? Will this fit my KLX250SF?

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]]> By: Dave on the Rex http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2012/09/european-market-2013-kawasaki-ninja-300-unveiled-with-video/comment-page-1/#comment-61217 Dave on the Rex Sat, 08 Sep 2012 22:43:17 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=23814#comment-61217 I own a 124.9 cc Sym scooter, marginal on urban freeways, but ok. Forget the open road. If I could just get that extra 25cc to make it a 150... I've ridden, at this point, 2 different 250 ninjas. Nice enough, I just need a little extra, to get closer to the CM400, or the GS450 I used to own. This makes it into this country, I'll be getting my little extra I need. I own a 124.9 cc Sym scooter, marginal on urban freeways, but ok. Forget the open road. If I could just get that extra 25cc to make it a 150…

I’ve ridden, at this point, 2 different 250 ninjas. Nice enough, I just need a little extra, to get closer to the CM400, or the GS450 I used to own.

This makes it into this country, I’ll be getting my little extra I need.

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]]> By: TimC http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2012/09/european-market-2013-kawasaki-ninja-300-unveiled-with-video/comment-page-1/#comment-61159 TimC Sat, 08 Sep 2012 01:58:45 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=23814#comment-61159 So, I'm trying to figure this out...can someone from Europe enlighten? I thought the gist was up to 125cc is one license/age/insurance class, then up to 250...so what's the point of a 300? Barely more than 250 but not in that class? Still thinking the right move, for the US at least, is 400...when I had a N250, I loved it but always thought about 10 more bhp would have been about right without ruining the balance. So, I’m trying to figure this out…can someone from Europe enlighten? I thought the gist was up to 125cc is one license/age/insurance class, then up to 250…so what’s the point of a 300? Barely more than 250 but not in that class?

Still thinking the right move, for the US at least, is 400…when I had a N250, I loved it but always thought about 10 more bhp would have been about right without ruining the balance.

]]> By: Provalogna http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2012/09/european-market-2013-kawasaki-ninja-300-unveiled-with-video/comment-page-1/#comment-61059 Provalogna Thu, 06 Sep 2012 15:25:25 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=23814#comment-61059 Good points. The 300s wild card is less than half the reciprocating mass of the much larger 600/650 size motors. Reciprocating mass has gyroscopic effect, resisting change in lean angle (hold a stationary bicycle wheel in your hands and tilt it L/R...now spin the wheel and repeat). Gyroscopic mass effect is exponential (reciprocating mass increases resistance to change of lean angle by square). Approximately 1/3rd less reciprocating mass (huge) is one of the reasons I'd take the Ducati 848cc Streetfighter over its much larger 1199cc brother any day of the week. Be realistic. How often is it useful to accelerate harder than an 848cc Ducati? Do you have an attorney on call? Would you drive without a driver license after they suspend yours? Which prisons allow you to ride motorcycles? 60mph in first gear, with five more gears on tap? C'mon... Good points.

The 300s wild card is less than half the reciprocating mass of the much larger 600/650 size motors. Reciprocating mass has gyroscopic effect, resisting change in lean angle (hold a stationary bicycle wheel in your hands and tilt it L/R…now spin the wheel and repeat). Gyroscopic mass effect is exponential (reciprocating mass increases resistance to change of lean angle by square).

Approximately 1/3rd less reciprocating mass (huge) is one of the reasons I’d take the Ducati 848cc Streetfighter over its much larger 1199cc brother any day of the week.

Be realistic. How often is it useful to accelerate harder than an 848cc Ducati? Do you have an attorney on call? Would you drive without a driver license after they suspend yours? Which prisons allow you to ride motorcycles? 60mph in first gear, with five more gears on tap? C’mon…

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]]> By: Provalogna http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2012/09/european-market-2013-kawasaki-ninja-300-unveiled-with-video/comment-page-1/#comment-61057 Provalogna Thu, 06 Sep 2012 15:09:46 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=23814#comment-61057 If you love 40 year old models dressed, made up, lighted, and edited to look, act, and smile like they are empty-headed, hormone-addled, and 19 years old, watch the video. If you're interest is the bike, pass. Hint: turn off the soundtrack if you're interested in the bike's "music". If you love 40 year old models dressed, made up, lighted, and edited to look, act, and smile like they are empty-headed, hormone-addled, and 19 years old, watch the video. If you’re interest is the bike, pass. Hint: turn off the soundtrack if you’re interested in the bike’s “music”.

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]]> By: Dave http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2012/09/european-market-2013-kawasaki-ninja-300-unveiled-with-video/comment-page-1/#comment-61054 Dave Thu, 06 Sep 2012 14:14:42 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=23814#comment-61054 I don't think they wanted to differentiate between the 250 customer and the next customer up, just offer more for that 250 guy/girl. It's also probably all the more they could get out of the block/cylinder casting that is almost surely shared between this and the 250 that will serve markets where that displacement is necessary. Same trick as done with the 400/650, just leveraging their assets. I don’t think they wanted to differentiate between the 250 customer and the next customer up, just offer more for that 250 guy/girl. It’s also probably all the more they could get out of the block/cylinder casting that is almost surely shared between this and the 250 that will serve markets where that displacement is necessary. Same trick as done with the 400/650, just leveraging their assets.

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]]> By: Dave http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2012/09/european-market-2013-kawasaki-ninja-300-unveiled-with-video/comment-page-1/#comment-61053 Dave Thu, 06 Sep 2012 14:10:29 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=23814#comment-61053 The 300 should be more usable in areas where the 250 fell short in the US riding scenario but if she's mastered a 250 then She sounds like a Ninja 650 or SV650 candidate to me. This 300 weighs close to what an SV does. The 300 should be more usable in areas where the 250 fell short in the US riding scenario but if she’s mastered a 250 then She sounds like a Ninja 650 or SV650 candidate to me. This 300 weighs close to what an SV does.

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]]> By: GP http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2012/09/european-market-2013-kawasaki-ninja-300-unveiled-with-video/comment-page-1/#comment-61047 GP Thu, 06 Sep 2012 10:18:33 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=23814#comment-61047 I love that they did this, but splitting the difference between the 250cc and the 600/650cc a little bit closer to the middle (a 350-450cc) would have been much better for beginner riders, IMO. Regardless, Kawasaki probably has another Best Seller here. My daughter rides a 2000 Ninja 250 (very well), and she wants to move up. This new bike is great, but it does not seem like quite enough of a jump to make the purchase worthwhile. Maybe I am wrong. The dyno graphs I have seen indicate that it makes significantly more power and torque than the 250... I love that they did this, but splitting the difference between the 250cc and the 600/650cc a little bit closer to the middle (a 350-450cc) would have been much better for beginner riders, IMO. Regardless, Kawasaki probably has another Best Seller here. My daughter rides a 2000 Ninja 250 (very well), and she wants to move up. This new bike is great, but it does not seem like quite enough of a jump to make the purchase worthwhile. Maybe I am wrong. The dyno graphs I have seen indicate that it makes significantly more power and torque than the 250…

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]]> By: Nick http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2012/09/european-market-2013-kawasaki-ninja-300-unveiled-with-video/comment-page-1/#comment-61045 Nick Thu, 06 Sep 2012 09:40:48 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=23814#comment-61045 I view the bump to 300cc as an easy way to bump power while staying ahead of the competition. If had been taken to 350cc the price would have differentiated it too much from other 250's. It's also a marketing tool for those that consider 250cc too small but 300cc makes them feel that much better. I view the bump to 300cc as an easy way to bump power while staying ahead of the competition. If had been taken to 350cc the price would have differentiated it too much from other 250′s. It’s also a marketing tool for those that consider 250cc too small but 300cc makes them feel that much better.

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