Comments on: Europe Drives Development of Electric Two-Wheelers . . . With Pedals (News) http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2012/10/europe-drives-development-of-electric-two-wheelers-with-pedals/ Motorcycle News, Editorials, Product Reviews and Bike Reviews Sat, 25 May 2013 06:24:43 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.2 By: Tom http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2012/10/europe-drives-development-of-electric-two-wheelers-with-pedals/comment-page-1/#comment-95343 Tom Mon, 12 Nov 2012 02:50:07 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=24474#comment-95343 "On a bicycle you’re moving, you can stand out of the saddle when you want and change hand positions..." I must be doing it wrong on my motorcycle. I am never still in my motorcycle seat unless I am cruising down the interstate. “On a bicycle you’re moving, you can stand out of the saddle when you want and change hand positions…”

I must be doing it wrong on my motorcycle. I am never still in my motorcycle seat unless I am cruising down the interstate.

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]]> By: George Krpan http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2012/10/europe-drives-development-of-electric-two-wheelers-with-pedals/comment-page-1/#comment-89564 George Krpan Fri, 02 Nov 2012 22:21:18 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=24474#comment-89564 Folks who don't ride bicycles don't know that you don't sit on the seat with all of your weight. It would be cool if someone made a motorcycle the same way bicycles are made. Several different frame sies, pick your favorite seat and handlebars, make it fit perfectly. Folks who don’t ride bicycles don’t know that you don’t sit on the seat with all of your weight.

It would be cool if someone made a motorcycle the same way bicycles are made. Several different frame sies, pick your favorite seat and handlebars, make it fit perfectly.

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]]> By: Dave http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2012/10/europe-drives-development-of-electric-two-wheelers-with-pedals/comment-page-1/#comment-88958 Dave Thu, 01 Nov 2012 23:35:30 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=24474#comment-88958 re. "The bicycle seat is not comfortable either. People complain enough about their motorcycle seats. Offer those people a bicycle seat and see if they don’t just hit you with it instead. " I am more comfortable on a road racing bicycle for 3-4 hours than I am on my sport bike (VTR1000) for 1 hour. On a bicycle you're moving, you can stand out of the saddle when you want and change hand positions and if it fits right not all your weight is on your butt. The riding position isn't for speed or aerodynamics, it's for ergonomics. It's very comfortable for those who are used to it. re. “The bicycle seat is not comfortable either. People complain enough about their motorcycle seats. Offer those people a bicycle seat and see if they don’t just hit you with it instead. ”

I am more comfortable on a road racing bicycle for 3-4 hours than I am on my sport bike (VTR1000) for 1 hour. On a bicycle you’re moving, you can stand out of the saddle when you want and change hand positions and if it fits right not all your weight is on your butt. The riding position isn’t for speed or aerodynamics, it’s for ergonomics. It’s very comfortable for those who are used to it.

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]]> By: George Krpan http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2012/10/europe-drives-development-of-electric-two-wheelers-with-pedals/comment-page-1/#comment-88929 George Krpan Thu, 01 Nov 2012 22:11:17 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=24474#comment-88929 It's pretty astonishing what a downhill mountain biker rides over with pedals. I've never seen a bicycle with a motorcycle style seat. Too heavy, I guess, and might not be the best for pedaling. I have seen people ride incredibly steep stuff on a mountain bike but it takes more know how than I've got. It’s pretty astonishing what a downhill mountain biker rides over with pedals. I’ve never seen a bicycle with a motorcycle style seat. Too heavy, I guess, and might not be the best for pedaling. I have seen people ride incredibly steep stuff on a mountain bike but it takes more know how than I’ve got.

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]]> By: George Krpan http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2012/10/europe-drives-development-of-electric-two-wheelers-with-pedals/comment-page-1/#comment-88925 George Krpan Thu, 01 Nov 2012 22:02:48 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=24474#comment-88925 Bicycle theft is covered by home insurance. Bicycle theft is covered by home insurance.

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]]> By: Jorge http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2012/10/europe-drives-development-of-electric-two-wheelers-with-pedals/comment-page-1/#comment-88159 Jorge Wed, 31 Oct 2012 11:33:39 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=24474#comment-88159 What I like about this besides not needing gas and oil changes, is I don't need to get a license add-on for motorcycle use (yearly fee), get it insured (well maybe the one in the photo), get it inspected every year, yearly registration, etc. Lets hope the greedy government doesn't start requiring the reg of electric bikes. I live in NC and the yearly property tax alone on licensed vehicles is enough to think twice about buying anything that needs a plate put on it. Yearly tax dues on my truck equal one monthly payment. What I like about this besides not needing gas and oil changes, is I don’t need to get a license add-on for motorcycle use (yearly fee), get it insured (well maybe the one in the photo), get it inspected every year, yearly registration, etc. Lets hope the greedy government doesn’t start requiring the reg of electric bikes.

I live in NC and the yearly property tax alone on licensed vehicles is enough to think twice about buying anything that needs a plate put on it. Yearly tax dues on my truck equal one monthly payment.

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]]> By: william http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2012/10/europe-drives-development-of-electric-two-wheelers-with-pedals/comment-page-1/#comment-87764 william Tue, 30 Oct 2012 17:55:55 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=24474#comment-87764 Pedals require both feet to balance them. I sometimes lift or unweight a leg when I see an obstacle on the side of the trail. Also logs, rocks, deep ruts don't like pedals all that much. Also, I shift my weight when using pedals, and shifting weight on a 2-wheeler changes how it handles and steers. So I do not like pedals for a lot of offroad situations. The bicycle seat is not comfortable either. People complain enough about their motorcycle seats. Offer those people a bicycle seat and see if they don't just hit you with it instead. That one company mentioned here has a more motorcycle style seat, that would be more what I would be interested in. Pedals being a backup power supply is good when batteries are done. However, can a loose uphill be possible on a heavy bicycle? I have never liked the low traction of mtn bikes on loose ground. I have come across many uphills that I cannot do on a mtn bike, but I can on a motorcycle. Another electric vehicle class might increase battery volumes and increase some technology and help to promote lower cost and better electric motorcycles. So I think that is the largest benefit about electric bicycles. Pedals require both feet to balance them. I sometimes lift or unweight a leg when I see an obstacle on the side of the trail. Also logs, rocks, deep ruts don’t like pedals all that much. Also, I shift my weight when using pedals, and shifting weight on a 2-wheeler changes how it handles and steers. So I do not like pedals for a lot of offroad situations.

The bicycle seat is not comfortable either. People complain enough about their motorcycle seats. Offer those people a bicycle seat and see if they don’t just hit you with it instead. That one company mentioned here has a more motorcycle style seat, that would be more what I would be interested in.

Pedals being a backup power supply is good when batteries are done. However, can a loose uphill be possible on a heavy bicycle? I have never liked the low traction of mtn bikes on loose ground. I have come across many uphills that I cannot do on a mtn bike, but I can on a motorcycle.

Another electric vehicle class might increase battery volumes and increase some technology and help to promote lower cost and better electric motorcycles. So I think that is the largest benefit about electric bicycles.

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]]> By: Fangit http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2012/10/europe-drives-development-of-electric-two-wheelers-with-pedals/comment-page-1/#comment-87414 Fangit Mon, 29 Oct 2012 21:41:03 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=24474#comment-87414 The Aussies are at it too. 80km/h mountainbike with 4500 watts, $10,000 See http://www.stealthelectricbikes.com.au/bomber.html The Aussies are at it too. 80km/h mountainbike with 4500 watts, $10,000 See http://www.stealthelectricbikes.com.au/bomber.html

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]]> By: George Krpan http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2012/10/europe-drives-development-of-electric-two-wheelers-with-pedals/comment-page-1/#comment-86995 George Krpan Mon, 29 Oct 2012 02:16:18 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=24474#comment-86995 The typical mountain bike crank is 175mm long, 6.89 inches. The typical mountain bike crank is 175mm long, 6.89 inches.

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]]> By: SquidProQuo http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2012/10/europe-drives-development-of-electric-two-wheelers-with-pedals/comment-page-1/#comment-86923 SquidProQuo Sun, 28 Oct 2012 21:38:52 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=24474#comment-86923 Your center of gravity does not change (much) by moving the pedals, unless of course you hunker down on the bike. Your center of gravity does not change (much) by moving the pedals, unless of course you hunker down on the bike.

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