Comments on: Zero 2013—95 mph, 137 Mile Range, 1-hr. Charge Time (Bike Reports) (News) http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2012/10/zero-2013%e2%80%9495-mph-137-mile-range-1-hr-charge-time/ Motorcycle News, Editorials, Product Reviews and Bike Reviews Sat, 25 May 2013 06:24:43 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.2 By: Ronald martens http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2012/10/zero-2013%e2%80%9495-mph-137-mile-range-1-hr-charge-time/comment-page-1/#comment-87167 Ronald martens Mon, 29 Oct 2012 13:04:25 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=24171#comment-87167 You may need to invest in a trailer? I have seen another make of e motorcycle that could meet your requirements. What you could do is pose your question to your favourite e motorbike rep. You may need to invest in a trailer? I have seen another make of e motorcycle that could meet your requirements. What you could do is pose your question to your favourite e motorbike rep.

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]]> By: Ronald martens http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2012/10/zero-2013%e2%80%9495-mph-137-mile-range-1-hr-charge-time/comment-page-1/#comment-87164 Ronald martens Mon, 29 Oct 2012 12:53:17 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=24171#comment-87164 Gearing has nothing to do with an electric motor as it is not applicable it behaves in a different manner to combustion engines which need a lower gear to start up then progress through the gears. With an electric motor there are different dynamics involved. There is an immediate torque. Just look at the white zombie lightning to know what I'm talking about. In the world of electrics it is a whole new world and should be treated different in its own perspective. If you think about an electric diesel locomotion. It can pull many carriages it is only one speed (I think) Yet the massive power. Imagine how big combustion engine you need to do similar. This is the great thing about electric motorcycles. It is early days and already we are seeing these performances. And more the life of the electric motor will last many more miles kilometres than a combustion motor. Gearing has nothing to do with an electric motor as it is not applicable it behaves in a different manner to combustion engines which need a lower gear to start up then progress through the gears. With an electric motor there are different dynamics involved. There is an immediate torque. Just look at the white zombie lightning to know what I’m talking about. In the world of electrics it is a whole new world and should be treated different in its own perspective. If you think about an electric diesel locomotion. It can pull many carriages it is only one speed (I think) Yet the massive power. Imagine how big combustion engine you need to do similar. This is the great thing about electric motorcycles. It is early days and already we are seeing these performances. And more the life of the electric motor will last many more miles kilometres than a combustion motor.

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]]> By: Eric http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2012/10/zero-2013%e2%80%9495-mph-137-mile-range-1-hr-charge-time/comment-page-1/#comment-75676 Eric Wed, 10 Oct 2012 11:39:33 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=24171#comment-75676 QUIET!!!......HUGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! QUIET!!!……HUGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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]]> By: Seth http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2012/10/zero-2013%e2%80%9495-mph-137-mile-range-1-hr-charge-time/comment-page-1/#comment-75566 Seth Tue, 09 Oct 2012 11:40:05 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=24171#comment-75566 Sorry USA, the EPA will limit EMF emissions to your groins. Expect a 1/4" lead shield under seat, etc. Sorry USA, the EPA will limit EMF emissions to your groins. Expect a 1/4″ lead shield under seat, etc.

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]]> By: Brutus http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2012/10/zero-2013%e2%80%9495-mph-137-mile-range-1-hr-charge-time/comment-page-1/#comment-75233 Brutus Thu, 04 Oct 2012 20:42:45 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=24171#comment-75233 Electric motors can operate at 90% efficiency, while internal combustion engines are typically 25-40%. There is a significant saving in shifting pollution from the tail pipe to the power plant, no matter the source. Easy to look up. Electric motors can operate at 90% efficiency, while internal combustion engines are typically 25-40%. There is a significant saving in shifting pollution from the tail pipe to the power plant, no matter the source. Easy to look up.

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]]> By: william http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2012/10/zero-2013%e2%80%9495-mph-137-mile-range-1-hr-charge-time/comment-page-1/#comment-75231 william Thu, 04 Oct 2012 20:41:01 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=24171#comment-75231 Not to put too much emphasis on the torque topic, but I don't think my past bikes could start in 6th gear where they are capable of doing 70mph. The e-bikes can. I envision my crf230 trying to pull 6th gear from a stop. I think the crf230 has a slower top speed than a zero FX also. There has to be a difference somewhere. e-bike looks as if it can pull my crf230 6th gear from a stop, but the crf230 can't. Similar size and weight bikes. Maybe the clutch comes into play here too, because once up to speed the crf can push itself in 6th. So the crf must have the torque, because it goes in 6th. It just needs help getting there in the first place. Not to put too much emphasis on the torque topic, but I don’t think my past bikes could start in 6th gear where they are capable of doing 70mph. The e-bikes can. I envision my crf230 trying to pull 6th gear from a stop. I think the crf230 has a slower top speed than a zero FX also. There has to be a difference somewhere. e-bike looks as if it can pull my crf230 6th gear from a stop, but the crf230 can’t. Similar size and weight bikes. Maybe the clutch comes into play here too, because once up to speed the crf can push itself in 6th. So the crf must have the torque, because it goes in 6th. It just needs help getting there in the first place.

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]]> By: Bryan Whitton http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2012/10/zero-2013%e2%80%9495-mph-137-mile-range-1-hr-charge-time/comment-page-1/#comment-75154 Bryan Whitton Thu, 04 Oct 2012 03:05:19 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=24171#comment-75154 I'm seriously looking. I figure I will need to sell my RF900r and my TL1000 race bike before I can convince the wife I want this one. This is getting more likely. :-) I’m seriously looking. I figure I will need to sell my RF900r and my TL1000 race bike before I can convince the wife I want this one. This is getting more likely. :-)

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]]> By: Bryan Whitton http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2012/10/zero-2013%e2%80%9495-mph-137-mile-range-1-hr-charge-time/comment-page-1/#comment-75153 Bryan Whitton Thu, 04 Oct 2012 03:00:09 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=24171#comment-75153 They do indeed reduce pollution as natural gas power generation is far cleaner than any currently available ICE motorcycle engine. Especially one that has incorporated a modified exhaust system. It is illegal to import coal powered electricity into California so that isn't likely here. I can generate(and currently do) electricity form the sun and so charging is essentially pollution free. As far as batteries, the materials would be recycled. Lead acid batteries contain far more hazardous materials than Li-O and the recycle program for them are very effective. My concern is can I install GIVI saddlebags and boots so I can carry my tools and ladder as I currently do on my DL650? They do indeed reduce pollution as natural gas power generation is far cleaner than any currently available ICE motorcycle engine. Especially one that has incorporated a modified exhaust system. It is illegal to import coal powered electricity into California so that isn’t likely here.
I can generate(and currently do) electricity form the sun and so charging is essentially pollution free.
As far as batteries, the materials would be recycled. Lead acid batteries contain far more hazardous materials than Li-O and the recycle program for them are very effective.
My concern is can I install GIVI saddlebags and boots so I can carry my tools and ladder as I currently do on my DL650?

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]]> By: Fangit http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2012/10/zero-2013%e2%80%9495-mph-137-mile-range-1-hr-charge-time/comment-page-1/#comment-75147 Fangit Thu, 04 Oct 2012 01:56:52 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=24171#comment-75147 Electrical power generation is much more efficient than petrol engine efficiency even with line losses. Petrol engines only recover about 26% of the energy value of the fuel. Power stations run at more like 85% so electric are reducing CO2 emmissions and pollution. As power stations change over to renewables or if you install solar panels at home, the reductions will increase accordingly. Gas prices will never trend at anything but going up. Subsizing these vehicles is simply a way or artificially increasing the speed of transition to renewables. What could be the true economic cost if we don't get serious about making the transition? Electrical power generation is much more efficient than petrol engine efficiency even with line losses. Petrol engines only recover about 26% of the energy value of the fuel. Power stations run at more like 85% so electric are reducing CO2 emmissions and pollution. As power stations change over to renewables or if you install solar panels at home, the reductions will increase accordingly. Gas prices will never trend at anything but going up. Subsizing these vehicles is simply a way or artificially increasing the speed of transition to renewables. What could be the true economic cost if we don’t get serious about making the transition?

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]]> By: M http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2012/10/zero-2013%e2%80%9495-mph-137-mile-range-1-hr-charge-time/comment-page-1/#comment-75137 M Wed, 03 Oct 2012 23:10:47 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=24171#comment-75137 Anyone gonna stick supermoto rubber on one of these? Anyone gonna stick supermoto rubber on one of these?

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