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		<title>By: peugotiste</title>
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		<dc:creator>peugotiste</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2012 10:45:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>13.3 : 1 Compr.ratio ?  Wonder how much will the starter last.  Just hope that it&#039;s located in an accesible location, as, at this price, these beasts are to be RIDDEN, not showcased.

Consider the price 20% higher, due to the travel costs included to-and-fro 
rare dealers (servicing etc..).

But it&#039;s an MV. And it&#039;s a benchmark raiser.

Made in Italy too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>13.3 : 1 Compr.ratio ?  Wonder how much will the starter last.  Just hope that it&#8217;s located in an accesible location, as, at this price, these beasts are to be RIDDEN, not showcased.</p>
<p>Consider the price 20% higher, due to the travel costs included to-and-fro<br />
rare dealers (servicing etc..).</p>
<p>But it&#8217;s an MV. And it&#8217;s a benchmark raiser.</p>
<p>Made in Italy too.
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		<title>By: bipedal</title>
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		<dc:creator>bipedal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2012 01:55:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Never before seen counter rotating crank?  Remember the Yamaha XS1100 from the late 70&#039;s?
I am sure there are some more out there including some dirt bikes that have a counter rotating crank as well....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Never before seen counter rotating crank?  Remember the Yamaha XS1100 from the late 70&#8242;s?<br />
I am sure there are some more out there including some dirt bikes that have a counter rotating crank as well&#8230;.
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		<title>By: Superlight</title>
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		<dc:creator>Superlight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2012 20:01:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Appearance is subjective. My eyes say the F3 is worlds better than the Daytona and the same on the Brutale vs Street Triple - much better component integration on the MVs. And why would anyone use Samco hoses on a Naked unless they wanted to call attention to all that piping?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Appearance is subjective. My eyes say the F3 is worlds better than the Daytona and the same on the Brutale vs Street Triple &#8211; much better component integration on the MVs. And why would anyone use Samco hoses on a Naked unless they wanted to call attention to all that piping?
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		<title>By: Hefner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hefner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2012 18:47:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dang...  Meant F3, not brutale 675, but probably close enough...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dang&#8230;  Meant F3, not brutale 675, but probably close enough&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Hefner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hefner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2012 18:46:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If it&#039;s anything like the 675 Brutale, Sport Rider magazine seems to think its electronics are a mess, and its suspension unbalanced (my interpretation of their wording).  So ugly and not as fast as a comparable Triumph then...

But to be honest, I don&#039;t find it that ugly.  It has some nice lines in the tail section, and the engine/frame/swingarm are sexy (why no left-side shots?)...  They start failing with the radiator shrouds, then the fail continues to the integrated turn signals on the tank (ruined a pretty tank there) and finishes off with the fly screen.

My take:
 - The whole point of the naked concept is brutalized by putting bodywork on a bike to hide the hoses.  Put some Samco hoses on the thing and ditch the shroud. 
 - Ditch the ridiculous inserts on the front of the tank, and continue the nice lines that are on the back half.
 - The instrument cluster should have been more integrated with the headlight, at least from the front perspective of the bike.  Go look at a Buell S1 or M2 to see what I mean.

All of these *could* be fixed by the aftermarket, or someone with enough shop skills and motvation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it&#8217;s anything like the 675 Brutale, Sport Rider magazine seems to think its electronics are a mess, and its suspension unbalanced (my interpretation of their wording).  So ugly and not as fast as a comparable Triumph then&#8230;</p>
<p>But to be honest, I don&#8217;t find it that ugly.  It has some nice lines in the tail section, and the engine/frame/swingarm are sexy (why no left-side shots?)&#8230;  They start failing with the radiator shrouds, then the fail continues to the integrated turn signals on the tank (ruined a pretty tank there) and finishes off with the fly screen.</p>
<p>My take:<br />
 &#8211; The whole point of the naked concept is brutalized by putting bodywork on a bike to hide the hoses.  Put some Samco hoses on the thing and ditch the shroud.<br />
 &#8211; Ditch the ridiculous inserts on the front of the tank, and continue the nice lines that are on the back half.<br />
 &#8211; The instrument cluster should have been more integrated with the headlight, at least from the front perspective of the bike.  Go look at a Buell S1 or M2 to see what I mean.</p>
<p>All of these *could* be fixed by the aftermarket, or someone with enough shop skills and motvation.
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		<title>By: Hefner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hefner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2012 17:29:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beat me to it.  Comments are listed in reverse order, so I read them backwards and didn&#039;t see your response.

Any idea if the Benelli kept the under-seat radiator in competition form?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beat me to it.  Comments are listed in reverse order, so I read them backwards and didn&#8217;t see your response.</p>
<p>Any idea if the Benelli kept the under-seat radiator in competition form?
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		<title>By: Hefner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hefner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2012 17:27:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Benelli Tornado.  A great concept of a bike that was not executed very well, and ran afoul of changing Superbike regs.

I&#039;m not sure if the SBK version kept the radiator placement...  The RC51 side moutned radiators were ditched cor competition because they couldn&#039;t handle the heat output of a race tuned engine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Benelli Tornado.  A great concept of a bike that was not executed very well, and ran afoul of changing Superbike regs.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure if the SBK version kept the radiator placement&#8230;  The RC51 side moutned radiators were ditched cor competition because they couldn&#8217;t handle the heat output of a race tuned engine.
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		<title>By: Bud</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2012 13:15:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is what the reply link is for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is what the reply link is for.
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		<title>By: Artem</title>
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		<dc:creator>Artem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2012 18:02:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ugly, but probably fast as all MVs racing bikes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ugly, but probably fast as all MVs racing bikes.
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		<title>By: Superlight</title>
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		<dc:creator>Superlight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2012 15:07:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Superhawk69, I&#039;ll take your comments on. I bought an F3 instead of a 675R and would do so again. All of us are different in our buying needs. For me, I wanted a new platform  (rather than something 6 years old)and a great look - sorry, Triumph, you lose on both counts. The things where the F3 loses out to the Triumph I&#039;m going to fix, so it was an easy decision. I must admit, however, if I had wanted a bike that required no reworks the 675R is the better buy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Superhawk69, I&#8217;ll take your comments on. I bought an F3 instead of a 675R and would do so again. All of us are different in our buying needs. For me, I wanted a new platform  (rather than something 6 years old)and a great look &#8211; sorry, Triumph, you lose on both counts. The things where the F3 loses out to the Triumph I&#8217;m going to fix, so it was an easy decision. I must admit, however, if I had wanted a bike that required no reworks the 675R is the better buy.
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