Comments on: Yamaha Readies 250 Class Sportbike to Compete with Kawasaki and Honda (Bike Reports) (News) http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2012/12/yamaha-readies-250-class-sportbike-to-compete-with-kawasaki-and-honda/ Motorcycle News, Editorials, Product Reviews and Bike Reviews Sat, 18 May 2013 19:50:56 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.2 By: Adem http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2012/12/yamaha-readies-250-class-sportbike-to-compete-with-kawasaki-and-honda/comment-page-1/#comment-159276 Adem Sun, 13 Jan 2013 01:28:58 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=25058#comment-159276 No one ask me, but hahaha, I think is a very srtnog paint, in my very personal interpretation, I think is an eye, and it's like a picture, then I can translate it like a memory, a girl playing (may be one of his sisters, why not?), and the eye represents how we remember this images, the black lines seems like veins or nerves of the eye. Holy Mother, five years at the architecture school makes you weird. No one ask me, but hahaha, I think is a very srtnog paint, in my very personal interpretation, I think is an eye, and it’s like a picture, then I can translate it like a memory, a girl playing (may be one of his sisters, why not?), and the eye represents how we remember this images, the black lines seems like veins or nerves of the eye. Holy Mother, five years at the architecture school makes you weird.

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]]> By: randy http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2012/12/yamaha-readies-250-class-sportbike-to-compete-with-kawasaki-and-honda/comment-page-1/#comment-157636 randy Sun, 06 Jan 2013 14:26:00 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=25058#comment-157636 It doesn't have to be that way - the air cooled Honda CB400 is very flexible. It doesn't need to be rev'd anymore than a twin. I too assumed this bike was peaky and was very surprised at this quality when I got to ride one. That particular bike went down Baja with a group of us in 2006 and still is being flogged with hardly any attention given it. It doesn’t have to be that way – the air cooled Honda CB400 is very flexible. It doesn’t need to be rev’d anymore than a twin. I too assumed this bike was peaky and was very surprised at this quality when I got to ride one. That particular bike went down Baja with a group of us in 2006 and still is being flogged with hardly any attention given it.

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]]> By: David Duarte http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2012/12/yamaha-readies-250-class-sportbike-to-compete-with-kawasaki-and-honda/comment-page-1/#comment-157124 David Duarte Thu, 03 Jan 2013 22:13:26 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=25058#comment-157124 I have a 1980 GS450E, and the GS500 that Suzuki recently stopped selling here wasn't too much different (except the chassis was better with the 500), as it was still aic-cooled, 2 valve per cylinder and carbureted.. The new Honda 500's are liquid cooled, 4 valve per cylinder and fuel injected. I'm hoping to park a 500F in my garage soon so I can ride a motorcycle more than I have to work on it :) I have a 1980 GS450E, and the GS500 that Suzuki recently stopped selling here wasn’t too much different (except the chassis was better with the 500), as it was still aic-cooled, 2 valve per cylinder and carbureted.. The new Honda 500′s are liquid cooled, 4 valve per cylinder and fuel injected. I’m hoping to park a 500F in my garage soon so I can ride a motorcycle more than I have to work on it :)

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]]> By: Southerner http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2012/12/yamaha-readies-250-class-sportbike-to-compete-with-kawasaki-and-honda/comment-page-1/#comment-156006 Southerner Sun, 23 Dec 2012 22:38:48 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=25058#comment-156006 Too expensive, indeed. The reason Honda went from the 400 4 to the Hawk twins was about the costs. Loved the Hawks and nearly bought one. Also, from a fuel economy standpoint, twins have more volumetric efficiency than a 4. Most US motorcycle riders don't care about fuel economy but it makes more of a difference to most people who will be buying in this class instead of something larger and more expensive. I think this new emphasis on smaller bikes is a good thing. I myself am keeping my eye on the new Honda 500 twins. They remind me of my old GS450S Suzuki. On those lines, it's ironic to note that the GS500F only recently exited the scene, the last of the 500cc class twins from the Big Four. Now Honda is back and sooner than expected. Too expensive, indeed. The reason Honda went from the 400 4 to the Hawk twins was about the costs. Loved the Hawks and nearly bought one.

Also, from a fuel economy standpoint, twins have more volumetric efficiency than a 4. Most US motorcycle riders don’t care about fuel economy but it makes more of a difference to most people who will be buying in this class instead of something larger and more expensive.

I think this new emphasis on smaller bikes is a good thing. I myself am keeping my eye on the new Honda 500 twins. They remind me of my old GS450S Suzuki. On those lines, it’s ironic to note that the GS500F only recently exited the scene, the last of the 500cc class twins from the Big Four. Now Honda is back and sooner than expected.

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]]> By: todd http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2012/12/yamaha-readies-250-class-sportbike-to-compete-with-kawasaki-and-honda/comment-page-1/#comment-155948 todd Sun, 23 Dec 2012 01:20:49 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=25058#comment-155948 I'm sorry, the CBR250R inline-4 spanks the new CBR250 single everywhere. There's just no comparison. The old bike has twice the acceleration. Sure, compared to a 650 single with the same horsepower you have to rev the bike quite a bit higher but you get to those RPM in the blink of an eye. I've never since seen a bike that could rev as quickly as the old 250 fours. Those bikes were glorious and painfully expensive to manufacture vs. an Indian or Thai built single. People in the market for a 250 don't typically go there for the power so the less expensive bikes (like the Ninja 250 twin) outsold the fours many times over. Don't kid yourself though, every kid that bought the cheaper bikes wished they had the same power of the fours but wouldn't have paid for it. I’m sorry, the CBR250R inline-4 spanks the new CBR250 single everywhere. There’s just no comparison. The old bike has twice the acceleration. Sure, compared to a 650 single with the same horsepower you have to rev the bike quite a bit higher but you get to those RPM in the blink of an eye. I’ve never since seen a bike that could rev as quickly as the old 250 fours. Those bikes were glorious and painfully expensive to manufacture vs. an Indian or Thai built single. People in the market for a 250 don’t typically go there for the power so the less expensive bikes (like the Ninja 250 twin) outsold the fours many times over. Don’t kid yourself though, every kid that bought the cheaper bikes wished they had the same power of the fours but wouldn’t have paid for it.

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]]> By: ROXX http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2012/12/yamaha-readies-250-class-sportbike-to-compete-with-kawasaki-and-honda/comment-page-1/#comment-155941 ROXX Sat, 22 Dec 2012 21:02:37 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=25058#comment-155941 Actually the Ninja 250 has been Kawasaki's best selling sportbike. To clarify, if this 150 cc Yamaha hits American shores with less than the Kawasaki it won't be able to compete against it. Actually the Ninja 250 has been Kawasaki’s best selling sportbike.
To clarify, if this 150 cc Yamaha hits American shores with less than the Kawasaki it won’t be able to compete against it.

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]]> By: Dave http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2012/12/yamaha-readies-250-class-sportbike-to-compete-with-kawasaki-and-honda/comment-page-1/#comment-155888 Dave Sat, 22 Dec 2012 05:48:05 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=25058#comment-155888 Also, comparing a new I-twin to an old one is a bigger difference than Barry B is considering. Water cooling, fuel injection, fairing options, etc. The old bikes are still great pieces but the technology of the new bikes is very compelling. Also, comparing a new I-twin to an old one is a bigger difference than Barry B is considering. Water cooling, fuel injection, fairing options, etc. The old bikes are still great pieces but the technology of the new bikes is very compelling.

]]> By: Chris http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2012/12/yamaha-readies-250-class-sportbike-to-compete-with-kawasaki-and-honda/comment-page-1/#comment-155880 Chris Sat, 22 Dec 2012 03:55:27 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=25058#comment-155880 "have a lot more appeal in the US than the smaller bikes as the price difference isn’t going to be huge" About $4k vs about $6k... Seems like a huge price difference to me at that end of the price spectrum. “have a lot more appeal in the US than the smaller bikes as the price difference isn’t going to be huge”

About $4k vs about $6k… Seems like a huge price difference to me at that end of the price spectrum.

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]]> By: Eric http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2012/12/yamaha-readies-250-class-sportbike-to-compete-with-kawasaki-and-honda/comment-page-1/#comment-155869 Eric Sat, 22 Dec 2012 00:38:43 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=25058#comment-155869 1 in 100 is ridiculous, no way is that accurate. Only numebrs I foudn are here: http://www.bplans.com/motorcycle_shop_business_plan/market_analysis_summary_fc.php#.UNT_xuTBF8E Doing the math, 18-25 would be 26% of the market (1/3rd of 80%). 1 in 100 is ridiculous, no way is that accurate. Only numebrs I foudn are here: http://www.bplans.com/motorcycle_shop_business_plan/market_analysis_summary_fc.php#.UNT_xuTBF8E

Doing the math, 18-25 would be 26% of the market (1/3rd of 80%).

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]]> By: ziggy http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2012/12/yamaha-readies-250-class-sportbike-to-compete-with-kawasaki-and-honda/comment-page-1/#comment-155861 ziggy Fri, 21 Dec 2012 22:37:54 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=25058#comment-155861 You obviously don't know much about riding in Canada as it is dirt cheap, just like the US. No one buys small displacement bikes here. Everything here is on an epic scale. Love these yanks who assume Canada is some expensive socialist nightmare. Why don't you turn off fox news and cross the border to learn for yourself? You obviously don’t know much about riding in Canada as it is dirt cheap, just like the US. No one buys small displacement bikes here. Everything here is on an epic scale. Love these yanks who assume Canada is some expensive socialist nightmare. Why don’t you turn off fox news and cross the border to learn for yourself?

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