Comments on: Can Honda Interest Gen Y in the 2014 CTX700s? (Bike Reports) (News) http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2013/02/can-honda-interest-gen-y-in-the-2014-ctx700s/ Motorcycle News, Editorials, Product Reviews and Bike Reviews Tue, 21 May 2013 06:30:14 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.2 By: Nick http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2013/02/can-honda-interest-gen-y-in-the-2014-ctx700s/comment-page-2/#comment-163326 Nick Thu, 21 Feb 2013 01:56:44 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=26390#comment-163326 Yet, the VFR series of bikes were very popular with a very loyal following. I knew two that had CBX's, my brother and a friend. Neither that I recall had overheating problems and in fact had no real issues at all. In the case of my brother he had two, the standard and the sport tourer model with faring. I found the CBX's a real hoot to ride and nothing had the presence of those six cylinders with gleaming chrome pipes like a CBX. No the fastest in their class but they didn't need to be, there was nothing else like them. Besides, what do those bikes have to do with today's? Honda is a very successful company which has taken the daring route in motorcycle architecture and design more than most any other company I can think of. Yet, the VFR series of bikes were very popular with a very loyal following. I knew two that had CBX’s, my brother and a friend. Neither that I recall had overheating problems and in fact had no real issues at all. In the case of my brother he had two, the standard and the sport tourer model with faring. I found the CBX’s a real hoot to ride and nothing had the presence of those six cylinders with gleaming chrome pipes like a CBX. No the fastest in their class but they didn’t need to be, there was nothing else like them.

Besides, what do those bikes have to do with today’s? Honda is a very successful company which has taken the daring route in motorcycle architecture and design more than most any other company I can think of.

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]]> By: rapier http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2013/02/can-honda-interest-gen-y-in-the-2014-ctx700s/comment-page-2/#comment-163226 rapier Wed, 20 Feb 2013 10:13:40 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=26390#comment-163226 For more and more of today's youth a car is out of reach and a motorcycle is beyond even a dream. It isn't they are uninterested as much as they are unable to afford them. The motorcycle industry is going to have to deal with a stagnant in size middle class, something that is an absolute certainty and that's the best case scenario. Truth be told the US is becoming a secondary market for many manufacturers or just part of the global mix. The fate of the industry not dependent upon the US. For more and more of today’s youth a car is out of reach and a motorcycle is beyond even a dream. It isn’t they are uninterested as much as they are unable to afford them. The motorcycle industry is going to have to deal with a stagnant in size middle class, something that is an absolute certainty and that’s the best case scenario.

Truth be told the US is becoming a secondary market for many manufacturers or just part of the global mix. The fate of the industry not dependent upon the US.

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]]> By: Simon Evans http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2013/02/can-honda-interest-gen-y-in-the-2014-ctx700s/comment-page-2/#comment-163072 Simon Evans Tue, 19 Feb 2013 13:00:57 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=26390#comment-163072 Again, Honda seem to be trying to blur distinctions between genres which have become established precisely because partitioning was required by the market: In so doing they're busy applauding themselves for definition-busting but what they've forgotten in the fuss to build a better mousetrap is that it still has to catch the mouse. To attract new markets you need new genres, not bastardisation of others... Both the CT tourer and nekkid lack the tank space of the other models. Both have piddly little 3.17 gallon tanks, and both they AND the other 700 models dismally fail to take advantage of the `laid down` engine concept with a boringly conventional high headstock design that compromises aerodynamics, and with it mpg. The one thing the DCT does is remove the need for a fixed foot position for gearchanging so why not develop a true `car alternative` single track vehicle that is not intended for the likes of thee and me? The main things that prevent motorists becoming motorcyclists are not horsepower or gearchaning, it's primary safety, wind and weather protection, cost of ownership and the fear of not being able to hold the thing up at a standstill. So where are the airbags (Honda have them), the near enclosed riding position and the automatic stand? Missed opportunity that proves Honda are out of ideas. Which is a true shame. Again, Honda seem to be trying to blur distinctions between genres which have become established precisely because partitioning was required by the market: In so doing they’re busy applauding themselves for definition-busting but what they’ve forgotten in the fuss to build a better mousetrap is that it still has to catch the mouse. To attract new markets you need new genres, not bastardisation of others…

Both the CT tourer and nekkid lack the tank space of the other models. Both have piddly little 3.17 gallon tanks, and both they AND the other 700 models dismally fail to take advantage of the `laid down` engine concept with a boringly conventional high headstock design that compromises aerodynamics, and with it mpg. The one thing the DCT does is remove the need for a fixed foot position for gearchanging so why not develop a true `car alternative` single track vehicle that is not intended for the likes of thee and me?

The main things that prevent motorists becoming motorcyclists are not horsepower or gearchaning, it’s primary safety, wind and weather protection, cost of ownership and the fear of not being able to hold the thing up at a standstill. So where are the airbags (Honda have them), the near enclosed riding position and the automatic stand?

Missed opportunity that proves Honda are out of ideas. Which is a true shame.

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]]> By: Montana http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2013/02/can-honda-interest-gen-y-in-the-2014-ctx700s/comment-page-2/#comment-163055 Montana Tue, 19 Feb 2013 01:42:04 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=26390#comment-163055 Inspired concept, brilliant engineering, uninspired design. How 'bout this platform with minimal plastic, chrome steel fenders, solo seat and styling cues from the classic Norton Interstate? Just add it to the CTX line-up Honda, before you decide to can the whole line prematurely for lack of sales. And give it a name new riders can relate to. Who's proud to announce they own a Honda CTX700? A what? Even bikers can't keep track of this nonsense. How about Eco Warrior or Liberty? Inspired concept, brilliant engineering, uninspired design.
How ’bout this platform with minimal plastic, chrome steel fenders, solo seat and styling cues from the classic Norton Interstate?
Just add it to the CTX line-up Honda, before you decide to can the whole line prematurely for lack of sales.
And give it a name new riders can relate to. Who’s proud to announce they own a Honda CTX700? A what? Even bikers can’t keep track of this nonsense.
How about Eco Warrior or Liberty?

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]]> By: Mike Simmons http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2013/02/can-honda-interest-gen-y-in-the-2014-ctx700s/comment-page-2/#comment-163052 Mike Simmons Tue, 19 Feb 2013 00:27:52 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=26390#comment-163052 I didn't read that into the posts at all. I think everyone was pretty much just voicing their opinion about the bikes. Although, I don't think I would buy one, if some one else chooses to do so, then, more power to 'em. I hope they enjoy it! Mike I didn’t read that into the posts at all. I think everyone was pretty much just voicing their opinion about the bikes. Although, I don’t think I would buy one, if some one else chooses to do so, then, more power to ‘em. I hope they enjoy it!

Mike

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]]> By: sherob http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2013/02/can-honda-interest-gen-y-in-the-2014-ctx700s/comment-page-2/#comment-163049 sherob Mon, 18 Feb 2013 23:41:48 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=26390#comment-163049 The CB750 is what gave Honda the money to create the automobile arm of Honda! LOL!!! The CB750 is what gave Honda the money to create the automobile arm of Honda! LOL!!!

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]]> By: John A. Kuzmenko http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2013/02/can-honda-interest-gen-y-in-the-2014-ctx700s/comment-page-2/#comment-163045 John A. Kuzmenko Mon, 18 Feb 2013 22:19:56 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=26390#comment-163045 You mean, if I don't like it, I don't have to buy it? Golly. What'll they think of next? :D You mean, if I don’t like it, I don’t have to buy it?
Golly.
What’ll they think of next? :D

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]]> By: Scotty http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2013/02/can-honda-interest-gen-y-in-the-2014-ctx700s/comment-page-2/#comment-163035 Scotty Mon, 18 Feb 2013 18:02:14 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=26390#comment-163035 Very true Gary - many are totally conformist in thier non-conformity!!! Us Guzzi riders are just off piste misfits. :-) Very true Gary – many are totally conformist in thier non-conformity!!!

Us Guzzi riders are just off piste misfits. :-)

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]]> By: Nick http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2013/02/can-honda-interest-gen-y-in-the-2014-ctx700s/comment-page-2/#comment-163034 Nick Mon, 18 Feb 2013 16:59:46 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=26390#comment-163034 Then you are free to pass and buy/ride something else. No one is holding a gun to anyone's head telling them this is it and this is what you'll ride. Different strokes for different folks. It's more than a little disturbing that so many seem to want conformity. How boring is that? I think Gary is stating it pretty close to the way it is. These bikes are not aimed at the seasoned rider so much as the new. They are built to a price, they're built low, and are made thrifty. Unless you're on racer road these bikes will most certainly keep up. Again, not your cup of tea, then move on. Then you are free to pass and buy/ride something else. No one is holding a gun to anyone’s head telling them this is it and this is what you’ll ride. Different strokes for different folks. It’s more than a little disturbing that so many seem to want conformity. How boring is that?

I think Gary is stating it pretty close to the way it is. These bikes are not aimed at the seasoned rider so much as the new. They are built to a price, they’re built low, and are made thrifty. Unless you’re on racer road these bikes will most certainly keep up. Again, not your cup of tea, then move on.

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]]> By: John A. Kuzmenko http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2013/02/can-honda-interest-gen-y-in-the-2014-ctx700s/comment-page-2/#comment-163021 John A. Kuzmenko Mon, 18 Feb 2013 13:27:52 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=26390#comment-163021 That's not how I feel about it. I just don't want a bike that makes me say, "Gross" when I look it. That’s not how I feel about it.
I just don’t want a bike that makes me say, “Gross” when I look it.

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