Comments on: Splitting Headache (News) http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2013/02/splitting-headache/ Motorcycle News, Editorials, Product Reviews and Bike Reviews Tue, 21 May 2013 06:30:14 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.2 By: BMS_RSVR http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2013/02/splitting-headache/comment-page-1/#comment-165311 BMS_RSVR Fri, 15 Mar 2013 01:26:35 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=26602#comment-165311 No need for a study, it is a mathematical certainty taught in all undergraduate traffic engineering classes. Just that Americans can't seem to comprehend using two lanes and then merging one for one; me first, me first. It is the law in Germany to merge in this manner during lane closures. No need for a study, it is a mathematical certainty taught in all undergraduate traffic engineering classes. Just that Americans can’t seem to comprehend using two lanes and then merging one for one; me first, me first. It is the law in Germany to merge in this manner during lane closures.

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]]> By: MGNorge http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2013/02/splitting-headache/comment-page-1/#comment-164332 MGNorge Wed, 06 Mar 2013 03:54:11 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=26602#comment-164332 Interesting viewpoint but I hardly ever go where cars don't, we all go the same places, it's just that I choose to think I have more fun than they do! Not living where we get miles of backups I pretty much can most of the time travel at my own pace and even relatively to myself with a twist of the throttle. The thought of running between cars on any road seems like a death wish to me. Why would I wedge myself between two hard objects at any speed and expect them to always do as I hoped? There's no need here so end of discussion for me. Interesting viewpoint but I hardly ever go where cars don’t, we all go the same places, it’s just that I choose to think I have more fun than they do!
Not living where we get miles of backups I pretty much can most of the time travel at my own pace and even relatively to myself with a twist of the throttle. The thought of running between cars on any road seems like a death wish to me. Why would I wedge myself between two hard objects at any speed and expect them to always do as I hoped? There’s no need here so end of discussion for me.

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]]> By: Joe Bar http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2013/02/splitting-headache/comment-page-1/#comment-164290 Joe Bar Tue, 05 Mar 2013 18:31:45 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=26602#comment-164290 They did that in northampton, Massachusetts a few ywears back, too. They did that in northampton, Massachusetts a few ywears back, too.

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]]> By: Paul Mitchell http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2013/02/splitting-headache/comment-page-1/#comment-164188 Paul Mitchell Mon, 04 Mar 2013 09:35:19 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=26602#comment-164188 Here in Euroland lane splitting is called , motorcycle riding !!! what the heck is the point of riding a motorbike in traffic if you cannot lane split ? The whole point of a motorcycle is that you can go where cars cannot . But you have to ride like you are invisible , assume that car drivers always want to run you down and kill you , that is the only way to survive on a motorcycle , and lets be honest here ...it is also part of the thrill and joy of riding . Here in Euroland lane splitting is called , motorcycle riding !!! what the heck is the point of riding a motorbike in traffic if you cannot lane split ? The whole point of a motorcycle is that you can go where cars cannot . But you have to ride like you are invisible , assume that car drivers always want to run you down and kill you , that is the only way to survive on a motorcycle , and lets be honest here …it is also part of the thrill and joy of riding .

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]]> By: TimC http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2013/02/splitting-headache/comment-page-1/#comment-164165 TimC Sun, 03 Mar 2013 18:14:06 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=26602#comment-164165 Yeah, I don't know what the deal is (some kind of altitude effect?) but CO drivers are uniquely uptight. There is some HUGE resentment if you are going faster - no place I've lived before here (OK, AZ, WA, OR, CA) was it so guaranteed that someone going 70 in a 65 will speed up just to prevent your passing. Also, no place I've lived will people blob up side by side at some speed instead of differences leaving a way through. I was going up one surface street and actually (this is this rare here) managed to get behind someone actually going THROUGH THE GAPS and we were both able to flow through (this is both in cars, so not a splitting story*) - when we finally got stopped at a light - CA plates. AHA. * The relevance here is that CO drivers are NOT going to be tolerant of splitting. I've only done it a couple of times, like when I hit a traffic jam on the way back from a ride on a HOT day. I got honked at and brighted (CO drivers LOVE their high beams too) plenty that time. Yeah, I don’t know what the deal is (some kind of altitude effect?) but CO drivers are uniquely uptight. There is some HUGE resentment if you are going faster – no place I’ve lived before here (OK, AZ, WA, OR, CA) was it so guaranteed that someone going 70 in a 65 will speed up just to prevent your passing.

Also, no place I’ve lived will people blob up side by side at some speed instead of differences leaving a way through. I was going up one surface street and actually (this is this rare here) managed to get behind someone actually going THROUGH THE GAPS and we were both able to flow through (this is both in cars, so not a splitting story*) – when we finally got stopped at a light – CA plates. AHA.

* The relevance here is that CO drivers are NOT going to be tolerant of splitting. I’ve only done it a couple of times, like when I hit a traffic jam on the way back from a ride on a HOT day. I got honked at and brighted (CO drivers LOVE their high beams too) plenty that time.

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]]> By: HotDog http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2013/02/splitting-headache/comment-page-1/#comment-164164 HotDog Sun, 03 Mar 2013 18:04:40 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=26602#comment-164164 I am not worthy of "Lane Splitting", in fact it scares the hell out of me. It's probabaly a good thing for those involved but I've witnessed too many distracted, angry and out of control drivers, for me feel comfortable. My bikes' seat would have permanent pinch marks if I attempted it. I ride in a part of the country where I've ridden for over an hour and never seen another car. Our idea of "Lane Splitting" in Dakota, is when a rancher is hurding cattle on the hiway and we're splitting Bossy and her cow pies. At least you LA boys don't have to put up with slippery "exhaust". I am not worthy of “Lane Splitting”, in fact it scares the hell out of me. It’s probabaly a good thing for those involved but I’ve witnessed too many distracted, angry and out of control drivers, for me feel comfortable. My bikes’ seat would have permanent pinch marks if I attempted it. I ride in a part of the country where I’ve ridden for over an hour and never seen another car. Our idea of “Lane Splitting” in Dakota, is when a rancher is hurding cattle on the hiway and we’re splitting Bossy and her cow pies. At least you LA boys don’t have to put up with slippery “exhaust”.

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]]> By: mr_dirtrider http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2013/02/splitting-headache/comment-page-1/#comment-164161 mr_dirtrider Sun, 03 Mar 2013 15:41:17 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=26602#comment-164161 If that is the case I wouldn't ride without lane splitting. I wouldn't want that fat mom on her cell phone directly behind me. I split in California for 20 years and as the traffic got worse and more dangerous, I split more not less. If that is the case I wouldn’t ride without lane splitting. I wouldn’t want that fat mom on her cell phone directly behind me. I split in California for 20 years and as the traffic got worse and more dangerous, I split more not less.

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]]> By: Dave http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2013/02/splitting-headache/comment-page-1/#comment-164155 Dave Sun, 03 Mar 2013 14:22:46 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=26602#comment-164155 I wouldn't lane split in NJ you wont here of any lane splitting accidents here cause dead men tell no tales. There are so many fat moms on cell phones and texting fools add to that @ 3oclock in the morning rt 80 has more traffic on it than some rush hours in many other states and it comes down to when it will happen not if. I wouldn’t lane split in NJ you wont here of any lane splitting accidents here cause dead men tell no tales. There are so many fat moms on cell phones and texting fools add to that @ 3oclock in the morning rt 80 has more traffic on it than some rush hours in many other states and it comes down to when it will happen not if.

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]]> By: Banditfan http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2013/02/splitting-headache/comment-page-1/#comment-164133 Banditfan Sun, 03 Mar 2013 03:46:56 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=26602#comment-164133 @sherm There have been numerous studies done both in North America and the UK (and probably elswhere) that show that staying in the closed lane and merging at the front actually speeds up traffic flow. There are some juristictions that use automated signs telling drivers to use both lanes and alternate yield at the merge point. If everyone is doing it there is no reason for aggressive blocking as everyone takes their turn. Sure, there will always be the occasional a$$h0le who tries to block someone from merging but by and large, it apparently works well. @sherm
There have been numerous studies done both in North America and the UK (and probably elswhere) that show that staying in the closed lane and merging at the front actually speeds up traffic flow. There are some juristictions that use automated signs telling drivers to use both lanes and alternate yield at the merge point. If everyone is doing it there is no reason for aggressive blocking as everyone takes their turn. Sure, there will always be the occasional a$$h0le who tries to block someone from merging but by and large, it apparently works well.

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]]> By: Crusty Kris http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2013/02/splitting-headache/comment-page-1/#comment-164122 Crusty Kris Sat, 02 Mar 2013 23:07:28 +0000 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/?p=26602#comment-164122 If they stopped lane splitting in California I would quit riding and buy a Porsche 911 to do my commute. Sitting behind a cage in traffic is way more dangerous than sitting between two cages. If they stopped lane splitting in California I would quit riding and buy a Porsche 911 to do my commute. Sitting behind a cage in traffic is way more dangerous than sitting between two cages.

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