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Honda Trots Out New VFR800F: 22 Pounds Lighter and More Power



Are there still VFR faithful out there?  Honda has not forgotten you.  A new VFR800F went on display in Milan today.  Featuring new styling, including a single, underslung exhaust and new bodywork.  The new VFR800F has a much simplier, cleaner look, and it loses 22 pounds in the process versus last year’s European model.  Claimed wet weight (fully fueled) is now down to 525 pounds.  Peak horsepower is 106.

A new fork, new swingarm, and wheels go along with adjustable seat height and a standard traction control system.  Also standard is ABS, heated grips and self-cancelling turn signals.

The v-4 soul gets tweaked for an increase in low and mid-range power.  Revised ergonomics, including a “significantly slimmer waist”, together with the weight loss, should make the bike feel more nimble.

The headlights are LEDs, as is the tail light.  Instrumentation is also new, and now includes a gear position indicator, ambient temperature and fuel consumption information.

We do not know at this time if the new VFRR800F is headed for the U.S. market for 2014.  Stay tuned.






  1. Auphliam says:

    This bike must be for balding, middle aged pirates since the windshield is so short…

    • vfr.marc says:

      Yeah? I’m a balding VFR pirate (95 VFR 750F) and this bike looks pretty good to me. So what if it has a lot of shortcomings? If you don’t like it, vote with your wallet. At least it has a vestigial NACA duct.

  2. Nick says:

    To answer some questions. the 2001 mileage improves as it gets older. i started out at 35 mpg up to 18K around 25K it went into the mid 40s, then now at 40K it is 45-55 mpg on regular. It is an easy bike to live with. Once a year i take it in for a checkup and it comes out with very little maintenance. i run AMSOIL full synthetic. it likes that the best, no paraffin based oils. I run PR3s. i have an Ohlins suspension, HID lights, heated grips, HH+ brakes, three GIVI bags, and a custom windscreen. It is a Very Fine Ride. There are faster, better handling, but this still brings smiles to my face every time i ride it.

    AS far as i am concerned all bikes are keepers in the eyes of the one who loves to ride them.

    MCN said:” The best model variant of the best bike ever. Bold words but this VRFs a stunner and preferred by many to the heavier VTEC model that followed. The V-four engine’s race derived, six figure mileage reliable and has a lovable roguish character. the ultimate all a rounder, track days, commuting, touring, posing all delivered with aplomb. Some people moan about the linked brakes but in the real world, the are as good system for all but the fastest riders. they can be complex to work on though. Depreciation is low(which is a double edged sword when buying used) and build quality high. ”

    I found the brakes very good and near ABS like in performance. In all weather it is very stable. I would recommend stoking the engine to the 900-1000cc level ie the 2001 engine, put in the ABS, a set of Erica LED lights for low and high beam, and allow GIVI bags for touring like mine. Keep the price below 10K and they will sell big time. As for the VTEC, it is a good engine but the non-linear torque curve is a curse in the curves. The 2001 has a flat torque and hp curve. A dream to drive, and the sound is mid-range not tiring like some cruisers or high rpm bikes.

    For what it was designed for it works…….I have had mine since 2003, with the only maintenance is fluids, adjust the valves once, and change/service the shocks and brakes once.

    So I wish Honda luck with this. ….Ride Safe my friends…..

    • billy says:

      With linked brakes you definitely should have ABS, I’ve seen careful guys lock up the front and go down with ice/snow conditions. Rear brake only helps with that.

  3. Rob McKinnon says:

    Jeremy, when the Vtec 800 came out in 2002, the Honda press kit made reference to the engine running in 2-valve mode in the lower RPM range and specifically mentioned “reduced sound pressure levels” in the combustion chambers.

    It also spelled out reduced noise from the cam chains Vs the gears.

    The thing Honda was up against was trying to meet more stringent Euro noise regulations with the Vtec model.

    Then, to get people excited about it, they touted it as a performance enhancing system, when really, if you overlaid dyno graphs of a 2001 geardrive VFR800 and a 2002 Vtec 800, the old Geardrive cam bike had more area under the graph on the dyno chart.

    It’s the same reason for the flapper and snorkel in the airbox. It’s there for government slow-speed drive -by noise testing, and then they make claims about better velocity flow through the airbox, and low RPM torque, etc.

    I’ve seen de-snorkelled and de-flappered 800’s tested on the dyno, and there was actually slight increases in torque, and no losses either.

    When the Mfgr’s get clamoed down by gov’t regulations, they will be sure to spin it off as something good in markering-speak.

    Nobody wants a “2014 Strangulo-Glide with “Soda-straw” mufflers and new, lower horsepower. Increased weight from pollution junk, and nanny-state electroics that hobble the bike when you’re having fun!” Nope, bike mfgr’s will find a way to make each of those legislated fun-sponge additions sound like the next greatest thing.

  4. Don Cox says:

    I kinda like it. It looks very refined, gentleman’s express and all that. However, if one were to ride this back to back with the ’14 Ninja 1000 abs I can’t image it would be much of contest.

  5. billyrazz says:

    Honda : Since we are the customers, we get to ask for what we want. For me, the perfect replacement for my 94 VFR would be this exact bike, EXCEPT for that bloody motor. Are there many fellow readers out there that do not think this would be a far better bike (and worth a higher price) if this had a +/- 900 cc motor with the VFR1200 V4 architecture? What is so hard about doing this? Yamaha and others seem to be able to make such moves.

  6. Jeremy in TX says:

    Having never ridden or owned a VFR with VTEC, I am always surprised at the gush of vitriol concerning VTEC whenever the VFR is mentioned. Do all of these anti-VTEC posts come from people who have actually owned the bike, or is this just virtual prejudice against the system?

    So VTEC owners – Is VTEC really that bad, and why?

    • VLJ says:

      Ever ridden an old Yamaha V-Max with V-Boost? How about a pre-V-Tech VFR?

      Here’s the drill…

      Step one: Take one of the world’s coolest feeling/sounding/performing motors, one with a dead linear power delivery that never fails to inspire, and…

      Step two: Remove its iconic gear-driven cams turbine whine, replacing it with a conspicuous lack of bottom-end torque and an abrupt, unnerving V-Max-style hit of power smack dab in the middle of a corner, right where you least want it. Oh, and accompany that bizarre hit with an equally sudden and thoroughly awful clattering noise that sounds like your engine just lunched itself. Lastly, make sure that for all of that, it still makes no more power than the previous mill.

      Welcome to V-Tech, VFR-style. Yes, they smoothed the transition a bit in the last iteration, but as with so many things Honda-related these past few years, the entire concept is an exercise in answering a question no one was asking. It’s simply tech for tech’s sake, to no discernible benefit.

      • VLJ says:

        I just realized that it’s ‘VTEC,’ not ‘V-Tech,’ as I’ve been mistakenly referring to it over and over here. Doh!

  7. Wendy says:

    This ould be a replacement for my ’99 VFR, but at less than $9K, the new Yamahammer 800 triple is super tempting.

  8. Daniel says:

    I have only owned sport bikes with “Old school” forks and old school non radial mounted brakes and old school carbs. I was into riding the corners hard and fast. My tires never had chicken strips. I never thought the suspension or brakes seemed low end but then again I have never rode a modern sport bike with fuel injection, inverted forks and radial mounted brakes. Am I missing out on something?

    • Agent55 says:

      No, you’re not missing out on anything, at least as far as street riding is concerned. Assuming your suspension is sprung for your weight, you have good tires on the bike and the brakes have good pads and fresh fluid, I’m not surprised you’re happy with what you’re riding.

      I just built a monstrous track bike with modern flatslide carbs on it and was amazed to find they perform better than any fuel injection I’ve ever used! So yeah, carbs can work great too 😉

  9. Kevin Buss says:

    I put 10,000 miles on my 2003 VFR800 and overall I was disappointed in the performance. Lack of midrange power was my main gripe. I wonder if this version will be better? Time will tell.

  10. frank says:

    The Honda v-4 motor is smoother at 80 than the Kawasaki 1000 is when it’s not running. For the purpose’s and rider’s this bike was built to serve, the daily commuter and longer distance sporty types, the bike will work…always has, and should cost much less than the larger more expensive sport tourers on the market now. The ‘weight’ and ‘old school’ forks will be a non-issue for most of those folks. Styling is bland, but I’m sure will not be a deal breaker for those considering this mount. And yes, gear driven cams would have been nice…but throw on some higher bars and small bags for overnights, and I doubt you’ll spend much time missing them.

  11. stinkywheels says:

    It’s always been the Honda I lusted for but had reservations on the extra crap it was saddled with and no bags standard. 100+hp, no linked brakes, no VTEC, Givi style bags, decent 5gal fuel tank, and 12K price and it’d be a tossup with MV, and dearly departed ST4 and Sprint.

  12. joe says:

    where’s the story on the new 500cc, 750cc Harleys?

  13. Bob L. says:

    I’ll keep riding my 98′ VFR. If this had the gear-driven cams, I might be interested.
    As far as weight, I have owned multiple VFR’s and for the sporty-touring I do, it was never an issue. I also think the “sweet-spot” for displacement has always been 750-900cc.
    I hope this new VFR does come to the USA. I never considered the 1200 (too weird/expensive).

  14. todder says:

    That bodywork and gold wheels are a clear Ducati ripoff, which make it look sexy. Still don’t think its enough for me to give up my 1050 Sprint.

  15. PN says:

    I like it. A nice, needed improvement that looks svelte and even a little elegant, if still a bit techno cold. I rode the previous model a couple of times. It was surprisingly non-involving and the motor ran hot. I bet it’s priced closer to $13K than the $9K or so I’d like.

  16. Rob McKinnon says:

    No, Honda did NOT listen to the “VFR faithful” on this one, or they would have heard us asking for 1000CC’s and NO VTEC.

    What we really wanted is a return to geardriven cams, which had been the signature of the VFR line since 1986 until 2001.

    And two entirely different models, an F and an R, both 1000CC’s. Optional hard bags for the F, and racetrack tech for the R.

    And how about some USD forks please???

    The heated grips and adjustable seat height, ABS and Traction Control would have been fine for a VFR1000F model, but for the R model, give us something more reminiscent of the RC30 and RC45, or VF1000R perhaps.

    I can see that I’ll be riding my 1999 VFR800 for a few more years yet, and it will be well over 100,000 km soon.

    • Dave says:

      I haven’t heard the VFR faithful ask for anything more than a return to the simplicity/weight of the pre-2002 model.
      You are describing Adventure category bikes (adjustable seat? heated grips?) and the CBR series. FWIW, Honda has confirmed that a 1000cc V-4 superbike is on the way. Will be too expensive for most.

  17. Gham says:

    I like the looks of it but I’ve always liked the VFR,especially that Red/White/Blue edition from a couple years back!

    • SausageCreature says:

      Yeah, nobody does red/white/blue paint jobs like Honda. The particular VFR you’re talking about (was it the 2007 model maybe?) was beautiful. I had a new baby on the way at the time, so i couldn’t justify the expense, but I still have serious lust for it. I haven’t seen any used ones on the market here lately either.

      I really like this new VFR though. Hopefully it comes stateside and doesn’t cost too much. I’ve been saving up for a CB1100, but this might very well change my mind.

  18. Spider says:

    Great job Honda!…ignore all the picky naysayers who seem to revel in being negative and critical on almost everything here. The rest of your customers and potential customers love our sport and living in this great age of high technology and quality products from you and the other bike makers. Thanks for working hard to make these great machines.

    • PepMotorcyclist says:

      What Spider said

    • Fred M. says:

      Many of the bike showcased here get very positive responses from the commenters. The reason why this bike is not enjoying such a response is due to its 1990s specifications. It weighs 525 pounds, makes 106 horsepower, and has old-school forks (rather than male slider forks). It seems like a less comfortable version of my long-ago sold 1999 Suzuki Bandit 1200S.

      Compare this to Yamaha’s new FZ-09, which has a 50cc greater displacement, 109 pounds lighter weight, and nine more horsepower. And unlike the Honda VFR, the Yamaha has modern forks.

      • Pablo says:

        Actually Fred, The new VFR features Honda’s all new “Multi-Action system Fork” which also has radial mount callipers. Which other “old school fork” has that? Sure its not Ohlins, but I bet the forks work perfectly well for a sports touring bike.

        Also, how can you say it “seems like a less comfortable version” when you havnt even ridden the bike? Dig a bit deeper and it is far from a “1990’s spec” bike as you would sugest. Traction control, combinded ABS, LED head lights, radial mount brakes, the list goes on….

  19. Sam Jones says:

    If only the Ninja 1000 (stateside model name) offered a CENTER STAND..(move “cats” into the big “dustpan” silencers) allowing room for center stand, Kawasaki could persuade me to open my wallet for the sweetest sounding in line four ever…

  20. Sam Jones says:

    Still a bit heavy but…if low-mid range torque have substantially improved, 106 HP is enough, I think. Hopefully we’ll see considerably better “suspenders” front and rear, a minimum 5-gal.tank with sans V-Tec…would have preferred a 900-1000cc mill though.

  21. Dave Joy says:

    If I was still in my 30’s this would be on my list of next bike!

  22. Norm G. says:

    one word… wonky.

    so many weird design cues. almost looks like what would happen if Honda sold off the manufacturing rights completely…? perhaps this shouldn’t even be badged a Honda…? and what’s with that front end…? 1995 called, they want their forks back.

  23. marloweluke says:

    If they can build a CBR1000RR at 440 lbs or so, why does this have to come in at 525 lbs?

  24. kawatwo says:

    Why does this new VFR800 weigh more than a Ninja 1000? Seat looks comfy though…

    • Norm G. says:

      re: “Why does this new VFR800 weigh more than a Ninja 1000?”

      ’cause 90% of it’s the old VFR800.

    • VLJ says:

      The VFR’s centerstand, gear-indicator and ambient temp gauge (three things missing on the Kawi) combine to weigh ONE MILLION pounds!

  25. TimC says:

    Hmmm and reading thru the comments it looks like this is still VTEC. BOOOOO Honda. I’ve been pondering what might be my next bike (have FZ6, am thinking C-14, V-Strom 1k) and then this comes along.

    VTEC, no f—ing thanks.

    • TimC says:

      Plus VLJ is SOOO right, once you see it you can’t shake how it looks like the CBR500R.

    • MGNorge says:

      If it incorporates VTEC it is quite possible, if not probable, that Honda has improved it? Time marches on and things do change,

      • Jeremy in TX says:

        It is still the same old VTEC, not the more sophisticated automotive flavor of VTEC. Whether they revised the initiating mechanism or anything else that may affect the overall VTEC “experience”, I have no idea.

        • Pablo says:

          “Its still the old VTEC” um no its not! MD just left out the bit that says it has been revised. Acording to Honda it has been softened which will no doubt make it nicer to ride.

          • Jeremy in TX says:

            By old, I just meant that it is still the old-tech vtec. As I said in the post, I had no idea whether or not it had been tweaked.

  26. VLJ says:

    The more I look at it, the more it reminds me (much too closely) of that CBR500R budget bike.

    And that’s not a good thing.

    • TimC says:

      I TOTALLY concur. I was looking at this at work and now opened it to read in detail. And that was my first thought – it does NOT look as good as I first thought, not even close. But I was still like “what’s not quite right about it” – you nailed it.

    • Dave says:

      Is that because it’s red and doesn’t look like oragami, or…

      • VLJ says:

        Look at the seat, tailsection and exhaust pipe: very similar to the CBR500R. Check out the leading edge of the fairing in profile. Same thing.

        The VFR always used to represent the flagship for Honda; as such, it was set apart with a uniquely high-end finish. Does this VFR carry on that tradition? I’d say that the VFR1200 does, as goofy-looking as it is, but I just don’t see it with this one…at all.

        • Dave says:

          You won’t know about the quality until you handle it in person. As for the look, I like it. I think the VFR went off the rails in 2002/3. It stands to reason that this and the 500 were on the design table at the same time and the similarities aren’t an accident. Perhaps it’d be more appealing if you’d seen the VFR 1st.

          • VLJ says:

            Perhaps, but that exhaust can still would have struck me as wildly uninspired, fairly screaming, “Budget bike!”

            I completely agree with you that the VFR went off the rails starting with the 2002 model. The 2001 was the last great (and true) VFR.

            With time having marched on, a 2014-spec VFR ought to look vaguely similar to that iconic gear-driven cams/no V-Tech ’97-’01 model, only it should incorporate these improvements:

            -Twenty-five more hp and at least ten more foot lbs of torque, probably from a 1000cc motor. Basically, Ninja 1000 power, or fairly close.

            -More sport-touring-friendly ergos, with higher/closer (adjustable, perhaps?) bars

            -ABS, traction control, TPS, heated grips, and a gear-position indicator.

            -Upside down forks

            -Radial brakes

            -A 510-lb wet weight

            -A pricetag not in excess of $12,999

            Had they done that, I’d already be making plans for my third VFR.

          • Dave says:

            I like all of your ideas for it.

            As for the “can”, perhaps it’s a loud hint to remind VFR buyers, “hey, you can put a sweet sounding aftermarket slip-on here..” 😉 It definitely saves $$ and likely saves a bit of weight too over the under-seat setup on the last one.

    • Neil says:

      As VFR fans know, it is about the ride and the things ride very nice indeed. Really easy to go fast. Amazing on the brakes. Great in the rain. Shifts like butter. It looks like the CBR500 but that’s ok. They sit down with a design sheet and they can do anything. They draw this. They draw that. It’s not supposed to look like other brands. It’s not the past. I rode my 96 VFR more miles than any other bike I had. It just asked to be ridden and then ridden some more. Cold. Rain. Heat. Whatever. I kept riding. I only sold it to pay off my credit card. Now I am simply past fifty and need to be more comfy like the CB1100 which I took an extra test ride around the block on before bringing it back on my test ride. Motor – Cycle. I like this VFR though.

  27. Dan says:

    My impression is that VFR’s get poor gas mileage, which is a deal breaker for me. Is this the case?

  28. Provologna says:

    1981-ish, first VFR750, circa 535 lbs soaking wet IIRC. Fast forward 33 years and ten lbs lighter? WTH?

    Other than that, it’s appealing at many levels.

    • Dave says:

      Given how much stronger, better, and more equipped this is, -10lbs is a triumph.

      Where is everyone getting such unrealistic expectations for weight on this site? Every new bike that comes out…

      • Norm G. says:

        re: “Where is everyone getting such unrealistic expectations for weight on this site?”

        ’cause they haven’t been around for more than a minute and don’t know what they’re looking at. like the crossrunner, they can’t see that’s it’s same old 6th gen.

        • GearDrivenCam says:

          Perhaps they are lamenting that, unfortunately, it IS essentially the same as the previous generation. Manufacturers CAN make bikes lighter so they handle better, are more fun, accelerate better, and achieve better fuel-economy. Who doesn’t want that? When they do – it feels like progress. Just look at Yamaha’s FZ-09 and MT-07. When they don’t – it feels like a lazy effort.

          • Dave says:

            They can make bikes lighter, and they do (CB-RR series). Those bikes serve the light and fast set very well, this is for someone else that Honda apparently knows pretty well. The VFR is a unique bike with a long, successful following. People love it and it has never been a 420lb race replica.

  29. Gronde says:

    Not as attractive as the old gear-driven VFR’s. The styling is too blunt and you can bet they went low budget on a lot of parts as evidenced by the forks. Still to heavy. PASS

  30. AFW says:

    This thing will waste away at the dealerships if it’s too expensive like the last one was.
    Old school forks are a plus, they’re easier to service than the USD forks. Overall it looks good, they copied the Ducati Panigale front end.

    • Fred M. says:

      Old-school forks are only a plus if you don’t care about handling. Upside down forks have taken over the industry because they work better. They have less flex and less unsprung weight, which results in far superior performance.

      • Dave says:

        All of that depends on what the motorcycle’s maker decided to spend on them. There are plenty of nonadjustable upside-down forks with heavy steel lowers, noodly axles and cheap, unsophisticated damping circuits out there. If the damping is sorted in this then it’s customers would be perfectly happy. If I recall, some would upgrade their VFR forks with those from the VTR Superhawk, widely recognized as the weakest component on those (VTR) bikes for spongy springs and heavy damping rates.

        • Fred M. says:

          Then let’s go back to drum brakes, because if you spend a lot of money on a drum brake, then it will perform better than a really cheaply made, poorly engineered disc brake. We can go back to dual rear shocks because really expensive, good rear shocks work better than low-quality single shocks. Slap on a pair of the best bias ply tires, because they are better than the worst radials. We can go back to a pushrod valvetrain because, if you spend enough, you can make it outperform a really cheap, poorly engineered DOHC valve train.

          There isn’t a good engineering reason to start out with a substandard design and try to engineer it into submission. This is especially true when designing a fork for a performance bike that weighs 525 pounds.

          • Dave says:

            Now you’re just being silly..

            I’ll say it again, there are a ton of USD forks out there, built to a budget that do not deliver on any of the things you believe they do. You do not know how this fork will work until it can be ridden but 95% of it’s performance will be determined by valving and spring, not which end is pointing up or down..

  31. GearDrivenCam says:

    If Honda cut the displacement in half and swapped it into the CBR600RR chassis – to create a new VFR400R at about the same weight as the 600RR (about 412 lbs wet) – and brought back the um…gear-driven cams – this would capture my attention. As it stands…525 lbs wet. Please tell me this is a misprint.

  32. Blackcayman says:

    The styling just doesn’t move me. The body work looks dated, the pipe looks like the bought it from a Bandit 1200….Add the sportbike ergos and its not even a bike to think about for me.

    Just like the VFR1200 – those ergos don’t seem to match the target audience.

    • lynchenstein says:

      I think you missed something. Those ergos look the same as my 98 VFR. It’s sporty enough, but lets me ride all day in (relative) comfort. This looks like a freshened up 98-01 VFR, it’s as if they’re pretending everything from 2002 onward just didn’t happen. I like!

        • Blackcayman says:

          I didn’t miss a thing – Never Liked the VFR ergos or the Sprint 1050 ST, or Hayabusa or Blackbird etc etc etc.

          Part of the success of all the adv bikes is the ergos – period. There is a huge demographic of 40 – 50 year old motorcyclists who still want sporty handing but not the ergos. Honda doesn’t seem to know this.

          Yamaha brings out the FZ-09 with upright ergos like a supermoto…even a bit more upright than traditional naked bike. ergos.

          • Blackcayman says:

            I ride a sportbike on track days – on the track for 30 off the track for 30. Thats where sportbike ergos belong. Of course there are zillions of 20 year old who can ride in the sprtbike crouch all day.

            On the road I want similar feeling bike but I want to touring ergos, better wind protection hard bags…. all the stuff you see on the new Aprilia…

            and hopefully on the new FJR-09 or Speed Triple ST

    • VLJ says:

      Exactly, Blackcayman. The ergos really don’t match the bike’s intended buyer/mission.

      • What would you say is the bike’s intended mission, and how does this deviate from that? I’m curious of your impression.

        The reason I’m asking is that they look fairly similar to other VFR800s of the last decade or so, and my impression is that those ergos are about right on. I’ve had a ’99 and ’06 and ridden the crap out of ’em. 600+ mi days? No problemo. Magic carpet compared to, say, 450 mi days on the RC51. Ever the gentleman’s express if you asked me.

        • VLJ says:

          Spirited sport-touring is its intended mission, and towards that end higher/closer bars along the lines of the Ninja 1000 fit the design brief much better than the low bars shown here. My 2000 VFR had these same low bars, and how many people wound up going with Helibars to alleviate that issue?

          This thing is well over 500 lbs, it includes a centerstand and provisions for factory hard bags, and it only offers roughly 100 rwhp. It’s clearly not a pure sportbike. It’s a Gentleman’s Express. See it for what it really is, and make it comfortable.

      • Dave says:

        Let us be fair to this bike’s ergo package. The Ninja 1000 is not a sport bike. It is a very high performance standard with a full fairing on it. I expect there will be lots of riders that prefer the VFR riding position to the N1000’s.

  33. j.davis says:

    I still wish I hadn’t traded in my ’98 VFR for a Ducati 999. After 7 years I mistakenly thought I needed a new bike.

  34. VLJ says:

    Unless this thing is priced remarkably low (meaning a game-changer price for the categroy, like the FZ-09), which VFR’s never are, it’s going to die on the vine. As card-carrying VFR Fanatic, this one just doesn’t hit the marks.

    Man, they had the best all-around bike on the planet with the ’94-’97 and, especially, the ’98-’01 models, and they’ve done nothing but screw up a good thing ever since.

  35. Gary says:

    Wow! Nice bike. At last a bike designed and built to be ridden in the real world. Right on, Honda.

  36. xlayn says:

    so you average MD joe with no vtec and gear driven cam… on my notes I would prefer a more CBRrish look for the headlights, inverted not “normal” forks that look like inverted :S and I agree about the exhaust they should have left the clean on the air look of that single side swingarm, looks like vfr1200ish

    from hondas desktop:
    you still love it so the same back for you… with VTEC we still have plenty of those spares around….

  37. nickst4 says:

    Boring look, boring engine: yes, it’s the much-vaunted and vastely-overblown VFR back again! Get a Ducati ST if you want a Sports Tourer with some character and soul! Oh wait, Ducati stopped making ’em years ago because there’s no call for such bikes anymore. Someone call Bologna, please…

    Nick, UK

  38. Topperrx says:

    Still miss my ’93. Bring back the all-white edition, throw in the gear-driven cam whine, and stick a can on it w/ some bark. Tasty.

  39. denny says:

    Close to ideal mid-size. Just wondering – is that seat long enough? Second question, what the weight is? It should not be any more than 420-430 lbs dry.

  40. Les says:

    I thought the VFR line died with the tragic VFR1200. I’ve wanted a VFR (without vtec nonsense) for years and years.

    A dream is reborn.

    Too bad about the ugly pipe on the side. Has a bit of a cheap suzuki look there to me with that fat can. Still, it beats the bell bottom pipe on the 1200.

  41. Philip says:

    This is closer to what “the faithful” have been looking for from Honda. I’ll bet the new exhaust and probably a plastic fuel tank is how most of that weight was lost. I didn’t see this coming at all, interesting.

  42. kjazz says:

    Seems a shame to cover that beautiful “no swingarm” side with another exhaust can. What a drag!! Under slung or high pipes, I know, I know, that costs more and might cook somebody’s sack. But still, SSSA’s should be visible from the open side!!

  43. Jeremy in TX says:

    Losing 22 lbs still means it weighs around 525 lbs, right? They would have to be pretty aggressive with the asking price for this to make sense against the Ninja 1000 which weighs less and is more powerful. I think an ABS VFR800 from 5 years ago cost about what the N1K ABS costs today.

    Still, I do like the design. Looks clean and tight.

    • denny says:

      Make it 425, then we are talking.

    • jake says:

      Nothing on this bike looks expensive aside from the mag wheels, which the “China” cheap exhaust can covers. Looks as if this bike was made to a price point, so I expect it to be fairly cheap. Cheaper than the past.

      Welcome to the first Thai built VFR.

  44. goose says:

    Not often I find myself agreeing with the majority but yes on both counts. Great to see a new VFR800 and I hope the stupid VTEC valve train is limited to the history books.

    Other thoughts, I hope the tail does indicate a saddle bag option will be available. Nice styling, much better than the “Ant’s Head” look of the last VFR800. I’m always please to see a bike loose weight. I wouldn’t miss the whine from the gear driven cams at all, I’d much rather hear a bit more intake or exhaust noise. I hope the non-USD forks mean the bike will be priced well, VFRs were never cheap but it would be great if this one came in in the $11.3K range of the Ninja 1000.

    I’ve never owned a V-4 but a friend was into VFRs (he had every VFR until the VTEC came out) let me ride a couple of them. Really nice, a 4 cylinder we twin types can love.


    • Jeremy in TX says:

      It still uses VTEC according to the press release at the Milan show.

      • Dave says:

        Is it available to see? I’ve done a quick search and can’t find it. I’ve had a VTEC and spent way to much time and money trying to get it to run smooth. No VTEC and I’d be VERY interested… with VTEC and I won’t even consider it.

        • Jeremy in TX says:

          Yes. Try one of the other US-based motorcycle web mags. It came through my RSS feed, so I am not exactly sure which one it was.

    • denny says:

      These things last. Met recently fella and his was 20 years old, this being the original 750. That was his daily use bike part of other 2 he uses for different tasks.

  45. Phil Ridgdill says:

    If they do away with VTEC Motor, You bet, I’d have one those But I’d keep 750F

    And your right I rode the Blackbird yesterday, its sweet, handles good at high SPEED 1.4plus but at low speeds it can be a handfull.

    I will Have a look at the new VFR.


  46. iliketoeat says:

    It’s 22 lbs lighter than what exactly? The old VFR800? Or the current obese VFR1200?

  47. VLJ says:

    Surprised they retained the rightside-up forks. Hardly ever see those anymore, not on upscale bikes with any real sporting pretensions. Also, with the obvious tailsection provisions for hardbags, I’m surprised that they didn’t raise the bars and bring them closer, a la the Ninja 1000. An awful lot of VFR riders over the years have gone the Helibar route, and I would have expected Honda to address this in any cleansheet redesign.

    But yeah, conspicuous by its absence is any mention of the elimination of the accursed V-Tech nonsense, nor is there any word on the beloved gear-driven cams of yore.

    For it be a proper VFR and wear that title proudly, those two things need to happen.

    • Dave says:

      I hope they’ve gone away from the “V-TEC” too. If they’re going to hold price then I’d bet they did. It would make more sense to play those tricks on inline bikes with only one head/valve-train.

  48. Dave says:

    My drink just fell out of my hand.

    That puts it back to where the 98-01 model weighed. I think this is closer to the bike the VFR faithful wished for at the last revision.

  49. Don Fraser says:

    keep it simple, sir and price it right

  50. Motowarrior says:

    Good to see this! The VFR had gotten to the level of major overkill in price, size and weight. This could be a very nice sport/sport touring bike for those of us who are of a certain maturity. That V4 motor always has been a smooth power plant for road work, especially when they leave off the VTEC. Here hoping…

    • Selecter says:

      I was just going to make the comment : if they leave out the insipid VTEC garbage, it might be worth a look…

      • Neil says:

        VTEC gives more power, more fuel economy and is quieter. An engine is either inefficient on top or at the bottom. VTEC is the solution for that. Honda knows you can buy an R1, ZX10, K1300 and so on. The VFR showcases VTEC among other things. My 919 has more low and mid range torque at the expense of top end. People complained about that. Enter VTEC. I have a Suzuki TU250. Simple. 17 tooth front. 70 mph all day long. The ultimate city/suburban bike. I put a pipe on too. Sounds amazing. But I will tell you as someone who rode a VFR 15,000 miles, there is nothing like it. It’ll cruise around town and hauls ass onto the highway, frankly without 150 HP that is unnecessary. It’s not like we have no choices these days.