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Victory Unveils 2015 Gunner: A Bobber With Big Power

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Victory took the wraps off the 2015 Gunner today at the IMS show in Chicago. The Gunner is a stripped-down bobber — a popular category these days — featuring the big Freedom 106 cubic inch v-twin and six-speed gearbox refined by Victory over the past several years. This is one of the premier cruiser engines in the heavyweight category that typically dynos in the ballpark of 80 rear wheel horsepower.

The Gunner features “Suede Titanium” paint, attractive multi-spoke cast aluminum 16-inch wheels (that carry narrow rubber, including a 140 section rear tire) and a relatively light claimed dry weight for the heavyweight cruiser category of 649 pounds.

With disc brakes front and rear, the Gunner makes due with a single 300 mm floating rotor in front and four-piston caliper. Brake performance might have been our least favorite thing about the Victory Judge when we tested it a couple of years ago.

Speaking of the Judge, the new Gunner, although 10 pounds or so lighter, seems to carry the same chassis geometry and narrow tires, so we would expect similar handling … solid, predictable, but not the most nimble.

For a heavyweight cruiser with a top notch v-twin such as the Freedom 106, the Gunner is priced as a bit of a bargain at a U.S. MSRP of $12,999. Victory is supporting the Gunner with plenty of accessories, and you can see a Gunner below with a red seat and other modifications. Take a look at Victory’s web site for additional details.

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Engine

Battery 12 volts / 18 amp hours
Bore x Stroke 101 x 108 mm
Charging System 48 amps max output
Clutch Wet, multi-plate
Compression Ratio 9.4:1
Cooling System Air / oil
Displacement 106 ci / 1731 cc
Engine Type 4-stroke 50° V-Twin (FREEDOM 106/ 6 V-Twin)
Exhaust Staggered slash-cut dual exhaust with crossover
Final Drive Carbon Fiber-reinforced Belt
Fuel Capacity 4.5 gal / 17.0 ltr
Fuel System Electronic Fuel Injection with dual 45mm throttle bodies
Oil Capacity 5.0 qts / 4.73 ltr
Primary Drive Gear drive with torque compensator
Transmission 6-speed overdrive constant mesh
Valve Train Single overhead camshafts with 4 valves per cylinder, self-adjusting cam chains, hydraulic lifters

Suspension

Front Suspension Conventional telescopic fork, 43 mm diameter, 5.1 in / 130 mm travel
Rear Suspension Single, mono-tube gas, cast aluminum with rising rate linkage, 3.0 in / 75 mm travel, preload adjustable spring

Chassis

Dry Weight 649 lbs / 294 kg
Ground Clearance 4.7 in / 120 mm
GVWR 1151 lbs / 523 kg
Length 93.4 in / 2372 mm
Rake/trail 32°
Seat Height 25.0 in / 635 mm
Wheelbase 64.8 in / 1647 mm

Brakes

Brake System Type Conventional
Front braking system Single 300 x 5mm/Floating Rotor/4 Piston Calipers
Rear braking system Single 300 x 5mm/Floating Rotor/2 Piston Caliper

Wheels & Tires

Front Tire Dunlop 491 E2-RWL – 130/90 B16 67H
Front Wheel 16 x 3.5 in
Rear Tire Dunlop 491 E2-RWL – 140/90 B16 77H
Rear Wheel 16 x 3.5 in

Colors

Colors Suede Metallic

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124 Comments

  1. Cyclemotorist says:

    As far as traditional cruisers go it has a great power to weight ratio.

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  2. Asphanaut says:

    It looks cool and some people actually buy cool-looking bikes.. just becuase there’s nothing ground breaking on it doesn’t mean there’s not a market for fresh-off-the-assembly-line, cool-looking bikes. Just guessing Victory knows this and is trying to sell some.

    One these days though, you gotta wonder and hope that Polaris just might, maybe, try something that isn’t a cruiser or a touring cruiser.

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  3. Sean says:

    The engineering department is working hard on the all new 2016 model. They’re gonna change the handle bars and call it a new model! I’m sooo excited they might even change the paint! And the new name should be pretty cool too!!

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  4. The Bald Eagle says:

    So your “brand new” model is just an existing model with a fat tire and different headlight? Come on Victory. I want to like you. I want an American alternative to HD. But that’s just sad.

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  5. Matt Schultz says:

    I own a 99 V92c number 48 off the line. Love Victory but they need to do better. This is just another rehash that breaks no new ground. How about a bike that will compete with the new entry level Harleys. A cafe race sytle bike would be nice. Sport Bike? Come on Victory, try a little harder.

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  6. Nick says:

    Once you realize it’s more of a trim package than an actual new model, you can appreciate it for what it is. I think it’s OK, and the price is way better than competing Harley models. Which are slower.

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  7. Randy says:

    Just another cruiser – ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

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  8. John says:

    Why does a bike have to have awful ergonomics, high prices and poor handling to look cool?

    Oh, wait, Moto Guzzi proved that untrue with the V7.

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  9. TexinOhio says:

    Still for the life of me can’t figure out why something like this does not get dual rotors up front. Same question about the Judge.

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    • mkv says:

      If you are not familiar with cruisers, the rear brake will be more effective than front brakes due to the rear weight bais.

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      • Jeremy in TX says:

        That is a common myth. The rear brake of a cruiser has more effect than the rear brake of a sport bike for instance, but weight transfers to the front during braking putting most of the burden of stopping on the front tire and brakes no matter what kind of motorcycle it is. That is why cruisers geared towards the touring and performance sides of the spectrum come with dual front discs.

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        • Provologna says:

          Re. braking, mentioned often in these comments. I don’t know what bike holds the current minimum braking distance at Motorcycle Consumer News (USA, I agree, the name is imbecilic because it implies persons who consume motorcycles, which are not food). When I subscribed circa twenty years ago, the record was held by…believe it or not, a cruiser. IIRC it had dual front discs and was a so-called “metric cruiser” rather than US brand.

          As explained by MCN’s professional authors/testers, and per my understanding of race bike architecture, the greater is front weight transfer prior to rear wheel lift the shorter is braking distance. The longer the wheelbase the greater is front wheel weight transfer prior to rear wheel lift.

          Relative to cornering, the shorter the wheelbase the less is lean angle for a given speed and cornering angle. So braking (and inverse braking AKA front wheel lift AKA wheelie) and cornering prowess are at cross purpose.

          Also, the wider is the front wheel/tire assembly the greater is coefficient of braking friction.

          Race replicas require maximum cornering velocity with shortest wheelbase (balanced against tendency to wheelie/brakie), which is at cross-purpose to maximum braking performance (longer wheelbase ala cruisers).

          Anyway, that’s why a cruiser out-braked the best race replica at that time. The cruiser’s capacity to transfer weight to the front wheel/tire plus its wider front wheel/tire “outweighed” (no pun intended) its estimated 200 lb weight penalty.

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          • Jeremy in TX says:

            Their record is still held by the 2006 Speed Triple with a 104.75′ stop which dethroned a 1999 Speed Triple. There are two cruisers in their top 10, though: the 1997 F6 Valkyrie and the 1997 Suzuki Marauder 800.

            The ratio between the center of gravity and the wheelbase is a very important factor with respect to stopping quickly which is why cruisers with good braking hardware are often capable of very short stops.

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          • kjazz says:

            …and the fact that they often hit immovable objects.

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        • John says:

          I didn’t even know that rose to the level of myth!

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    • John says:

      If you’re not familiar with cruisers, it doesn’t matter because you’re likely to die from being unable to avoid or stop or do anything else a normal motorcycle can do. Also, you’re probably drunk, have a huge gut and have some obese skanky woman on the back so you’d need more braking power than is possible with any amount of discs.

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      • kjazz says:

        …so this is all a conspiracy to wipe out beer guzzling fat guys and their skanky women, huh!!!?? Ok…I’m down with that.

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      • powermad says:

        So, having trouble getting a woman huh?

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      • Snake says:

        If you’re not familiar with cruisers then you SHOULDN’T GO COMMENTING ON THEM.

        So now a cruiser isn’t a “normal” motorcycle, eh? A bit of sportbiker snobbery? Go read the reviews on the braking ability of the bike I currently ride, a (later model) Mean Streak 1600. With dual 320mm disks, radial 4-piston calipers and sportbike-sized rubber, pull the panic button and the braking is great. And I weigh 142 pounds, thank you very much.

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      • dino says:

        Someone’s been hanging out at all the wrong bars…

        Funny! Not completely true, but funny! You forgot about the loud pipes being an early safety system, so they don’t need to brake that hard anyway as all cars within earshot of their awesome rumbling will just pull over from fear.

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    • Michael H says:

      Because of cost reduction. Next question, please.

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      • MGNorge says:

        It is cost savings but also the look. Sporty riders want and love the look of dual rotors, I’m not sure the same can be said for buyers of this style of bike? Thinking back to the chopper thing, looks wise I bet most would do without if they thought their bike stopped well enough without a front brake.

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    • Joe Bogusheimer says:

      Are dual rotors really needed, though, or are they as much as anything a styling cue taken from serious sport bikes? I mean, one front brake should be more than adequate to provide the needed braking force – as I understand the reasons for dual front brakes on sport bikes include balancing the braking force, and in particular providing adequate braking capacity to avoid fading. Street bikes, especially ones like cruisers, usually don’t have their brakes worked hard enough for fade to be a concern.

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      • Jeremy in TX says:

        I suppose it’s like a helmet. You don’t need one until you do. The faster you are going when you need to grab a handful or the more repetition such as on a winding road, the more important that extra disc becomes.

        Dual disc are there to double the surface area. I’ve never heard the “balancing” explanation before and don’t see why any balancing would be needed. Not saying your wrong, just that I don’t understand the reason and have never “felt” an imbalance on single disc bikes I have owned.

        In my limited experience, a dual disc setup is much more effective all things equal both in term of outright power, sustain, and effort. The best testament I’ve ever had of that is when we rented a Sportster 1200C and 1200R (the R had dual discs) on a trip once. The difference in braking prowess between these two otherwise nearly identical bikes was unbelievable and noticeable even in normal riding situations.

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      • Trent says:

        I own a Suzuki M50 (cruiser); bought it used. It has a single disc up front. The braking was horrible. So I installed a stainless steel brake line and sintered pads. Now it’s just okay. If I could cheaply swap out the forks for a dual rotor setup, I would do it in a heartbeat. This is the only cruiser I’ve owned, so I don’t know about others. For reference, I also own a ZX10R and a Z750S. On the Z750S I swapped out the forks for those of a ZX6R.

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  10. Jay says:

    I’ve been waiting for Victory to grow on me. Still waiting.

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  11. Gentleman Rook says:

    It’s not a bad looking cruiser at all, but my V-Star Roadliner offers classier styling, lots more horsepower (101) from an engine with jut a few more CCs (113 cu in,) and I can unbolt the pillion seat in about five seconds, all for the same price and at the same curb weight. Not seeing it, me. Close, but not there yet. As someone said earlier, tho, they’re definitely keeping HD square in their sights, so more power to ya, Victory.

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  12. takehikes says:

    Not much new BUT its about $3k cheaper than a comparable HD so its obvious who they have in their sights. I say good for them. I also say they could build anything they want but you build to the market and the market is cruisers. Nothing wrong with various iterations of the same powerplant/trans. Car guys did it forever and still do.

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    • Gronde says:

      Cheaper initially, but the resale really sucks. Check it out

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      • John says:

        If you’re thinking about resale when buying a bike, it’s a strong indication you probably shouldn’t be buying that bike.

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        • Gronde says:

          I like to change bikes every few years and it’s nice to have a decent
          down payment. Makes sense to look at the big picture before you purchase.

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          • Brian says:

            Agreed. I don’t approach every potential motorcycle purchase with the expectation that I’m going to own the thing for 15 years.

            Sure, it’s only one factor among many….but I don’t think it’s necessarily an indication that the buyer: a) doesn’t really like that well; or b) knows he/she will have to sell in short order for financial reasons.

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          • John says:

            I would just buy used and wait a year for someone to sell the bike. But that’s me. But then, I’m constantly amazed at how much some people want for their used bike.

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          • Brian says:

            I’ve had good luck picking up 2-3 year old used bikes with low miles (between 1,500 and 3,500) at about 40% off what the seller paid new. If you’re patient, you can find what amounts to a new machine for something approaching half price. You have be willing to buy in the middle of winter, pay cash, look for people who don’t do a good job taking ad photos, etc…but yeah, there are people around who take pretty huge 1st-owner depreciation hits and don’t even begin to ride the bike enough to justify it.

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          • Norm G. says:

            re: “Makes sense to look at the big picture before you purchase.”

            big picture…? or fantasy picture…? ’cause if you were REALLY looking at the big picture, you’d know the only value to be had is in it’s use. resale value is too unpredictable now that the bottom has dropped out. maybe back in the day, but now…? those days are over Johnny… THEY’RE OVER…!!!

            the only thing you can safely conclude is what the dealer and all the tyre kickers ultimately want to give you is… nothing. these aren’t Toyota Camrys, this is the niche business of motorcycling.

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          • Scottie says:

            Down payment? Pay cash for toys.

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        • Norm G. says:

          re: “If you’re thinking about resale when buying a bike, it’s a strong indication you probably shouldn’t be buying that bike.”

          or any bike for that matter.

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  13. Jeremy in TX says:

    Looks nice as far as cruisers go. But I just can’t can’t help but to be completely bored with it. Too bad innovation doesn’t pay in this segment. The only exciting things that ever happened in cruiser land were the Vmax, Diavel and Vrod. And I am not sure the first two count as cruisers.

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    • kjazz says:

      You left out the Kawasaki Eliminator, came out same year as the VMax (1985) and it was one of those that people were shocked and upset by. It actually could get out of its own way very nicely and yet, it was supposedly a “cruiser”.

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  14. Neil says:

    In the Boston area we have Lowell Bike Nite on Tuesdays, alone the Merrimack River near UMass Lowell. It’s all about posing and the nicer the bike looks there, the better, so this bike will fit right in. Stuck in traffic getting gawked at by cagers (women)? Ditto. Stopped at the local bar or cafe? Gassing up? This bike will get looks and you’ll be comfortable doing it because right out of the box Victory knows how to make a seat that you can sit on for a while. The motors are of course full of torque. The chassis is modern with a single rear shock. Nice lookin machine. It’s not gonna replace my 06 919, but…

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  15. Austin ZZR 1200 says:

    Just add the typical, bloated 250+lb American cruiser rider and you’ve got a half ton on two wheels. Congratulations.

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  16. RAS says:

    Does no-one in America have any imagination?

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  17. Krisd says:

    Anybody spot the error in the last (bottom) picture of the Gunner above? The exhaust header is chrome…….it cant be- they are one piece units, so it must be black.

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  18. Motorhead says:

    Beautiful jugs. Take off the shields by the steering tube and under the seat and I’d like it even more.

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  19. Michael Haz says:

    I saw a Gunner on static display at the Chicago IMS today. It looks much better in person than in photos. It is quite attractive, actually, with very good fit and finish, attention to detail, etc. I stood nearby and watched who spent time looking at it. Most of the people who lingered were men in their 20s and 30s. The price/value proposition seemed to be most interesting to them.

    The price was on a sticker on the gas tank and more than a few conversations included tapping fingers on the price sticker. I got the impression that $12,900 is a pretty appealing deal for what is essentially a grown-up motorcycle with an engine that produces more hp and tq than a more expensive HD. Plus, it isn’t a HD, and that counts for something among some buyers who don’t want to be part of the big crowd.

    It’s just my guess, but I think Victory may have a winner in the Gunner.

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  20. Clarke Johnston says:

    Victory needs to mix in some Yamaha MT-01 DNA. Then some of the practicality of a BMW R1200R. Add mid-mount pegs, etc. In other words, make a kick-ass large-bore standard. Small shield, usable bags, maybe even a center stand. Get it under $16K. My local dealer wants well over $18K, before taxes and license, for his left-over Hammer S, in the, um, not so appealing red and white 2013 colors. The blue and white version rocked.

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    • MikeG says:

      Agreed! Victory seems to be beating a dead horse with their cruisers. Having ridden a few of them, i can say I like the feel, handling, and performance, but good god the first Vegas would have been better off if its styling hadn’t been derrivatively utilized in every Vic to come for the next decade. A big twin perfoemance bike would be brilliant….might draw ex-Buell guys as well as some new customers into the dealerships.

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  21. The1&only says:

    Don’t like the name Gunner (good for an ugly hound perhaps) but the motorcycle looks great. Oddly going to a narrower section rear tire seems backwards at first, but handling will be better that 200 mm rears can supply. The new burn out king of the cruiser world, spooling a 140 with that much power will be a breeze. Victory and Indian are going to have a great future for the parent company Polaris.

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  22. frank says:

    Polaris has produced another good looking motorcycle, and at a very competitive price. Does the fact that they are going up against Harley for market share really surprise anyone?

    After reading most of the comments here, I think people are forgetting one very basic thing: dirt, sport/race, naked, cruiser, and adventure bikes ALL look pretty much the same, with rare exception. The fundamental style of all of these machines has been determined a long time ago based on a number of different criteria. Alter them too much and they will either become unrecognizable or undesirable to the people who buy them, or both.

    So go ahead, take out your #2 pencil and some paper and apply your crazy creativity to design a cruiser that doesn’t look like a cruiser, but still is a cruiser, if you can. Then try and do the same for the sport/race bike segment, and the rest…(and then try to sell them). Having trouble…yea, I thought so. And if you could, you might want to sit in your life boat and watch as the attack’s and criticism’s flood your way.

    New axiom: Change has its place, and so does repetition…know your buyer’s.

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  23. Jean says:

    Looks like an over-sized honda shadow.

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  24. Tim says:

    Nice looking cruiser. The black Victory exhausts are really ugly though, and even uglier in person. I’m not sure what they should replace it with but they need to come up with something more attractive.

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  25. Hot Dog says:

    And nary a word has been uttered about the bicycle tire on the rear. That’s the snowmobile company’s easiest way to better handling performance.

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  26. Pure Lunacy says:

    Same old, same old…it’s been beaten to death. Oh, we changed the color, we changed that one little radius on the corner of the side cover…it’s a new model.

    Whoop-de-do, it’s been overdone with sameness, oh wait, a new limited edition model…we’ll call it “SameNess!!” Brilliant, we can overcharge for it.

    Time to change the game Victory.

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  27. Ed Chambers says:

    Ok so how is this not a Judge with a different paint job?I gave up on the whole 1 up bobber thing a while back.But if I hadn’t I might take a look at this before I bought a Harley “48″, “Street Bob” or “Blackline”

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    • Gary says:

      Oh, but they changed the rear fender a little, and removed the passenger seat, and even changed the wheels ever so slightly! So now it’s… um… yea, pretty much a Judge with darn little differences. Just trying to cover all the same model ideas as Hardly. I hope Victory (and most others) would just quit trying to be another Hardly and be their own brand.

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    • mickey says:

      doesn’t have those stupid number plates for side covers

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  28. JR says:

    Hey.. I have an idea for a different, light weight, American made fun motorcycle with a torquey air/oil/fan cooled V-twin engine.. with fuel in the frame, oil in the swing arm, with rear belt drive, a fixed rear axle and belt tension idler pulley, that has hydraulic lifters and you don’t need to over rev the engine either to make plenty of usable power. Sorry.. I forgot.. American’s don’t need a low maintenance affordable fun machine such as this.

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  29. Buzz says:

    It looks like almost every other Victory and especially The Judge which is already available.

    Why make such a big deal out of it being a 2015 model when we just started 2014?

    It’s another reaction (like Yamaha) to popular Harley models.

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  30. Montana says:

    Shorter wheelbase, less rake, taller seat, pegs under seat.
    In other words, less of a sled and more of a standard please?

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  31. kent_skinner says:

    650 pounds, plus a “biker” in assless leather pants could easily hit 900 pounds.
    Skinny front tire and a single disk?

    I guess they assume their target audience aren’t aggressive riders.

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  32. allworld says:

    I’m not a cruiser guy, and now that Polaris has Indian, I would like to see Victory branch out a bit into other bike styles. I can’t imagine Victory producing a liquid cooled, V-twin light weight sport bike, but maybe something along the lines of a Café Racer or Street-fighter/Naked would be away to bring other riders to Victory brand. Currently the only American bike I would buy is the RX1190 from EBR.

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  33. Tank says:

    Can’t Americans build a street bike that isn’t a V-twin? Oh, I forgot about the Blast.

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    • Norm G. says:

      re: “Can’t Americans build a street bike that isn’t a V-twin?”

      they can, the real question is will we do our part and come off the dime or throw it under the bus…?

      survey says…! (*ding*)(board flip) throw it under the bus. was the #1 answer.

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    • ride2live says:

      I agree with Tank, or for that matter many of you. Want to call something new and different, don’t make a wheel change or a paint change, “Make” something new! Victory has answered the call to a new American made choice, but only in the cruiser segment, what about the rest of the population? Sure Buell and Motus have offerings, one pure sport the other too expensive. Want to bring something new? Bring a bike the rest of the markets can perk up to, a standard or a sport tourer. How about something other than a V-twin? America is built on diversity!

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    • Jeremy in TX says:

      Yes, sir. Run out and put your deposit down on a Motus while you still can! Bankruptcy won’t wait long.

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  34. mickey says:

    Not my style, but the nicest looking of that genre that I have seen.

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  35. TheSeaward says:

    I’m sure it has tons of torque, but 80 horsepower from a 1.7L sounds pretty sad.

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    • Provologna says:

      +1. Thirty six years ago my 1978 Suzuki GS1000 made mid-high 70hp and weighed 150 lbs less. I owned one such model with Wiseco 1100cc forged pistons. I bet the price of this new (non) Victory, 65mph roll-on test with both bikes in top gear, that big pore GS would walk so fast away from this pig it would make your head spin.

      Painting “performance” image on these type of bikes doesn’t work for me.

      Hard to knock the look of this particular model, though.

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  36. Michael H says:

    Very close to the price of an HD Sportster 1200, but with a stronger engine and better frame.

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  37. MGNorge says:

    Could mount a turret on the rear fender and call it the Tail Gunner? This is the kind of bike that reminds me that there are all types of riders and they all have their own views on motorcycling. Fits well with a certain sub-cult of the Harley community.

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  38. Sean says:

    I don’t like that Victory keeps pumping out slightly different versions of the same bike it would be nice to see something different but that said this is a good looking bike and a bargain at that price (at least compared to the other models).

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  39. Tom R says:

    Very cool, much more desirable than anything from H-D.

    But a single disc front brake on a 650 pound motorcycle? One would be wise use one of them wrist-squeeze exercise thingies for a week or so before riding out of the parking lot.

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  40. Louis says:

    Why don’t they just cut to the chase and call it the “B-17″ ?

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  41. Mike Simmons says:

    …. yet another Harley wannabee…. I guess it will sell though…. just not to me.

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  42. Jedi says:

    It looks ok for what it is but looks absolutely nothing like a Bobber.
    You could buy one, cut it all up and turn it into one I guess.

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  43. Gronde says:

    Wow. A completely new bike that is so unique, nothing like it has ever been produced before. A benchmark model, so different than anything Victory offers. NOT

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  44. Norm G. says:

    1st impression…? I love it. 2nd impression…? I love it. 3rd impression…? cut down that rear fender to match the proportions of the bike.

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  45. joe b says:

    if only they would get rid of the “Tracy” like bodywork, so 90′s like, dump the obese fat rear fender look, and go with traditional 60′s -70′s look, making it look more normal motorcycle, if only…

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  46. Bob says:

    This is not what I expected as a “bobber”. Sorry doesn’t do it for me.

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  47. VLJ says:

    As those things go, that is a genuinely handsome bike. Kinda iffy on the red seat, though.

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