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Honda RC213V-S Official Announcement (with video)

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If you have $184,000 burning a hole in your pocket, and a desire to own one of the most exclusive street legal production motorcycles ever made, get ready to grab one of the few available Honda RC213V-S bikes. Yesterday, we posted a video with an early look at the bike in action, allowing you to hear its engine. Expect the web to get more videos soon, perhaps even one of Casey Stoner taking laps aboard it at Catalunya this weekend. We have embedded one additional video below.

Honda promises that “a fortunate few will have the chance to purchase what is essentially a pure MotoGP weapon, with only minimal changes for a street application.” Unfortunately, the bike comes stock with only 101 hp, and you will have to purchase a power-up kit for closed course use to unleash its potential. Here is the press release just received from Honda (follow this link to visit the special RC213V-S website):

TORRANCE, Calif. (June 11, 2015) – Honda today confirmed that the revolutionary RC213V-S is to be sold as a premium 2016 model, with a limited number set to be made available to U.S. customers. Every sport bike enthusiast has dreamt of climbing aboard a MotoGP™ machine and experiencing firsthand these bikes’ exceptional engineering and performance, but with rare exceptions, only top-echelon racers have had that opportunity—until now. With the RC213V-S, a fortunate few will have the chance to purchase what is essentially a pure MotoGP weapon, with only minimal changes for a street application.

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Originally unveiled in prototype form at Italy’s EICMA show last November, the RC213V-S is based on the RC213V that Marc Marquez rode to the last two MotoGP world championships, and is closer to a MotoGP bike than any road-going model ever offered to the public. “Ever since the modern four-stroke era of MotoGP began, fans have demanded a road-going version of Honda’s legendary RCV,” said Lee Edmunds, Manager of Motorcycle Marketing Communications at American Honda. “With Honda’s dominance in recent years, that call has become unrelenting, so we’re excited to announce the RC213V-S. This motorcycle reflects the same attention to detail and precision in assembly found in the factory machine. It’s an amazing bike that is sure to be a hit with a select group of U.S. customers.”

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Setting a new benchmark for performance in production road bikes, the groundbreaking RC213V-S was developed with close collaboration between Honda’s Motorcycle R&D Center and HRC, and is painstakingly manufactured in an exclusive workshop in the Kumamoto factory, using premium materials and production methods that are atypical for production motorcycles.

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Like the RC213V upon which it is based, the RC213V-S is powered by a compact 90º V4 999cc engine with titanium connecting rods and a sand-cast aluminum crankcase. Mass on the lightweight machine is highly centralized, and it’s race-derived features include an under-seat fuel tank and carbon-fiber-reinforced-plastic fairing. Among the components inherited directly from the race bike are the swingarm, slipper clutch, magnesium Marchesini wheels (17 inch size for the RC213V-S), pressurized Öhlins fork and adjustable footrests and foot controls, as well as most of the Brembo brake components. In recent years, MotoGP has ushered in huge advances in the area of electronic rider aids, and this is reflected in the RC213V-S, which boasts throttle-by-wire, selectable power modes, engine-brake control and traction control, with position-detection technology developed through Honda’s ASIMO project.

  • Color: HRC Tricolor, Carbon Fiber
  • Price: $184,000
  • Availability: Reservations for this limited-production model will be taken exclusively through the official model website: www.RC213V-S.com beginning at 3:00 p.m. PST on July 12, 2015

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106 Comments

  1. GKS says:

    For those that were expecting a “real” Moto GP bike, there is always the RC1000V-RS. It’s a cool one million dollars (race kit included).
    Oh, and by the way, it’s still not competitive with the factory bikes.

  2. NRHRetro says:

    Makes a 300hp H-2R look like an absolute steal, doesn’t it? 50k and way more hp than anything else. Oh, and Kawasaki did that because “they can”. 😀

  3. Stuki Moi says:

    It looks good, if nothing else. And with that sized radiator for a 100hp engine, you could probably strap it to a dyno in the heat of Dubai summer, and keep it pinned pretty much indefinitely.

  4. Norm G. says:

    re: “Unfortunately, the bike comes stock with only 101 hp”

    oh okay, so THIS is what happened to that pile of 9:1 ULEV Accord pistons once earmarked for Nicky’s bike. got it.

  5. Norm G. says:

    184g’s…!? whew, I gotta sell a lot of lemonade… I better get started.

    • Blackcayman says:

      you once said it would be 200K

      I’ll bet you never considered it would be released with one two cylinders operational though???

      • Norm G. says:

        re: “I’ll bet you never considered it would be released with one two cylinders operational though???”

        for the states…? yes.

        like I said, you can always expect them to get you spun up, and then do something weird at the 11th hour. in this case it’s the blatant unavailability of the race kit in the US. Tokyo knows moto-IQ’s are no longer elevated enough here to properly value their engineering expertise.

        they (of all countries) see how America’s turned itself into a beggar nation of consumers. we got no love for them…? no worries, they got no love for YOU.

  6. azi says:

    I’m wondering if there is some hidden corporate policy in Honda that dictates their flagship products for public consumption to never set new performance standards; and that the engineering should only go nuts for professional racing teams. The 1969 CB750 was slower than the contemporary Bonneville; the VF750 wasn’t as sporty as the FZ750, nor as fast as the GPZ900R; and the RC30 and RC45 was consistently outclassed by the ZX7R and GSXR750 in road form.

    The only exception to the rule that i can think of is the original Fireblade in 1992. Perhaps Tadao Baba didn’t get the memo.

  7. DaveA says:

    I personally know two people who badly want one of these; one to collect, and one who will also buy the race kit, and will ride (and maybe crash like he did his Desmosedici)on the track. And, I don’t really know lots of rich people, just lots of bike people.

    You can crow on as loudly as you like about how silly the bike is. It is a 100% certainty that they will sell every one of these they build.

  8. FNFAL says:

    Next up – the Honda cork…for every fork…

  9. The bike has been developed and 80% of the parts are motoGP, so 80% of the development cost is covered. Nice marketing move and will help offset some of the expense of running in that class. New GL1800, why? Already a great bike and not selling in the numbers it used to. The motorcycle market is changing. Look at the new 1000 Pioneer with DCT, that market is growing like crazy and Honda finally stepped up. Yamaha has good product built to a low price and all ya’ll do is whine about the suspension or throttle response. Kawasaki builds a bunch of nice stuff, but has to discount it before it sells. Suzuki is about dead in the good old USA.

    • Norm G. says:

      re: “Yamaha has good product built to a low price and all ya’ll do is whine about the suspension or throttle response.”

      tossers.

  10. Curly says:

    This bike is Honda saying “Because we can, because we did”. It is not seriously meant to be sold to be ridden or raced or to generate a profit. It’s not aimed at us as customers. It is, if anything, Honda creating a collectible that shows off what they have accomplished in the recent decade of racing. You will see it in the collections of the wealthy and in museums for us to marvel at. Yes, some will get to ride them around a bit but it won’t be us.

    • Curly says:

      I’ll amend that slightly.While this bike is not seriously aimed at motorcycle buyers it will probably be displayed alongside the next new thing this Fall that they will want us to buy. Sort of, “You can’t have this one but you can have this other one with a lot of our race proven tech”.

      • Norm G. says:

        re: “it will probably be displayed alongside the next new thing this Fall that they will want us to buy. Sort of, “You can’t have this one but you can have this other one with a lot of our race proven tech”.

        see entry for “halo model”.

    • DaveA says:

      Hey look, Curly gets it! Well said.

    • Stuki Moi says:

      “Because we can, because we did”…
      “And because MotoGP this, F1 that is what everyone claims to want”
      “But we still realize it’s dumb as sh%^#”

      IOW, it’s raised middle finger directed at what Honda decision makers considers a seriously misguided direction for all of motorcycling. A reductio ad absurdum of the current glorification of “track bikes for the street.”

      It’s Honda releasing this thing, after all. Not some two bit outfit started by some dude with a Lamborghini poster on his wall who happened to have Bernanke and Yellen throw him a billion. To the extent corporate managed to cajole a single HRC engineer to take time off from getting Marquez back to the front and stop getting their rear end licked by some puny Austrian startup across that ever more marketing important dessert, his heart would in no way whatsoever be in it. And ditto for anyone involved from the mother ship. $185K bikes aimed solely at the toff market, is about as far from Honda’s current focus as it can get. It’s a neat, flippant, holier-than-thou canned answer for the next journo/dealer/opinioneer who complains about Honda being “behind” technologically. And very little else.

  11. Tim says:

    The only explanation is that Honda management is paid by their competitors to only sell stuff I do not want to purchase. If they ever asked long time fans of Honda what we want to purchase, they would have sold a modern CBX with good handling, a Freddie Spencer CB1100F replica, and then when Moto GP went to 4 strokes, a 1000cc V5 and an 800 cc V4.
    In addition, every few years, they would sell a “Legend Series” – something to re-live their glory years of 60’s racing – an air cooled 250cc six, a 125cc five, and a 50cc twin.
    The prices should be comparable to their competitors bikes of similar displacement, corporate Honda can afford to make special bikes that are a bargain. There is nothing special about selling a bike that less than 1% of the population can afford.

    • Blackcayman says:

      ….”There is nothing special about selling a bike that less than 1% of the population can afford”.

      Actually, there is something and “special” is the exact definition of it… – regarding Halo Vehicles. They generate tons of excitement from the Fanboys & they get press out the whazoo.

      Camaro ZL-1 or Z-28 = big sales of base models

      This bike just has the sound of air leaking from a balloon as they announced the HP

      • Grover says:

        From reading all these posts I don’t see all the “excitement” you’re referring to. What did I miss?

        • Blackcayman says:

          sightings of potential buyers would be extremely rare no matter the HP.

          They have “people” that do all that crap for them.

  12. Craig Jackman says:

    No, the calendar doesn’t say April 1st …

    So lets see, the consumer Moto GP racer hasn’t been competitive, so lets sell them so we can make a profit on this. $186k? Well maybe we’ll move a dozen to Russian and Chinese billionaires who are compensating for something. Another $400k for the race kit to unlock it? And which track day would you like that delivered to Sir?

    • Norm G. says:

      Q: “And which track day would you like that delivered to Sir?”

      A: longblock assembly (quant 1) to Indianapolis please. thank you.

  13. SausageCreature says:

    I was kinda flabbergasted by the 101hp thing, too, until I thought about it for a minute.

    People with $185k to spend on a motorcycle also have the money to obtain the race kit…even if it isn’t “officially” available in the US. I’m sure a race kit exists for each and every bike produced, and they’ll find a way to get one. And if such people are inclined to ride this bike on the street, they’re not going to think twice about doing so with the “track only” kit installed. Hands up if you have a “not approved for street use” exhaust on your street bike. Yeah, me too. Hands up if you’ve changed the fueling to get more power at the likely cost of greater emissions. Yeah, me too. Ever been busted for it and received anything other than a slap on the wrist. Yeah, me neither.

    So, basically, it’s probably a non-issue to those who have the means to buy one.

    • Norm G. says:

      re: “People with $185k to spend on a motorcycle also have the money to obtain the race kit”

      i’ll buy that for a dollar…

      (X $185,000)

  14. Provologna says:

    Sorry, I won’t bother retrieving the link. A small condo in a nice San Francisco neighborhood quickly received purchase offer for over twice its recently advertised price in the mid-$700k range.

    IIRC the buyer was from China, someone looking for a place to put a portion of his multiple millions made on Asian investments.

    Me thinks person described above is the target demographic for buyers of this new Honda. If I had the money I’d consider buying one, with the race kit, but I’d leave the kit sealed. One year after original stock is gone this bikes is worth twice original selling price. Honda isn’t selling these to dealers because IMO dealers would charge twice Honda’s sticker.

    Not one buyer of this bike has ever heard of this blog and never will. Of that I am certain. Probably most don’t even speak or read English.

    At least buyers won’t have to worry about Honda re-releasing the bike two years after these are gone, the way BMW did with their “Last Edition” air-head boxers. IIRC “Last Edition” models were R100RS with special commemorative decal on the tank, leather case with special certificate, the whole nine yards.

    Imagine buyers’ surprise to see more air heads two years later on the show room! Kind of like when deceased Bobby resurrected on the old Dallas TV soap opera.

  15. This is an exotic machine and I’m sure they’ll sell every one. It’s clearly not the machine many of us wanted to see Honda make, though, and I wouldn’t bet against most of these staying in their crates, as others have said. Some have proposed this is for homologation – I’d bet against that. Honda didn’t just homologate their MotoGP machine for SBK use. This thing is purely an ego-driven collector’s item. In a sense, it’s not even for performance enthusiasts!
    I used to be a Honda fan. If they’d made something like the Honda equivalent of the R1M for anywhere south of 35 grand I’d have sold some toys and ponied up. But this thing? Forgetaboutit.

  16. Gutterslob says:

    It’s for homologation, me thinks. Sucks for buyers (especially American buyers) thanks to emission regs and whatnot, but I suspect it’ll be world beating in Superbike race trim. Not sure how it’ll get around Superstock rules though. Wonder if we’ll be able to see McGuinness or Anstey riding a full-on tuned version of this round the Isle next year.

    157 hp or not, I still want one, even if I have to store it indoors and baby it all day….. Actually, no. If I had that kind of money, I’d probably get that two-strole Ronax replica of the NSR 500 instead.

  17. azi says:

    NR750 for the new century. Not necessarily the pinnacle in performance; but it’s an exclusive piece of engineering nonetheless, and will undoubtedly become a collectible with appreciating investment value. I suspect most of the buyers won’t take them out of their delivery crates.

  18. EZMark says:

    Or you could buy an R1M for $22 grand and have almost 200HP and a ton of MotoGP technology.

    • When Honda brass say fans were clamoring for this thing, I have to wonder if they mis-interpreted the request. Surely more folks would be interested in something more like the Honda equivalent of an R1M.

  19. They can only run it to 9500 rpm and meet US noise regs, so that explains the low HP. This wasn’t built for any of you whiners and certainly not to compete with the run of the mill superbikes. I admire The ballsyness and bet they sell all they want.

    • Frank says:

      Couldn’t agree with you more Don! And please, not more comments about this thing racing in world super bike or any other spec, it is not a homoligation (sp?) special and that’s not why Honda built it.

  20. Rocky V says:

    Is this a news story ?

    i think i’ll get an R1- and try to ride that

  21. graham mccullough says:

    why bother ?

  22. PABLO says:

    Just found out that with the full race kit it is over $400,000 Aus dollars!!!!

  23. carl says:

    Who the hell is running Honda nowadays?? Accountants?

    • Jeremy in TX says:

      No. Accountants would have smelled a negative ROI on this and shut it down immediately.

  24. PABLO says:

    Its only the USA model that makes 101HP. The Australian and Europe model make “over 215HP” with the kit fitted.

  25. Grover says:

    Just think if they would have spent the development money on building an decent Interceptor instead of the watered down version that they are now offering. Now that would be impressive!

    • carl says:

      Agreed! So many of there bikes are long overdue for something new like the Goldwing, ST1300 etc.

    • Norm G. says:

      I’m going to allow this. Honda’s dragged their ass on the next HRC kit for more than a decade, but have finally pull their head out. who knows, in Honda world maybe 10 year intervals is now the business model…? get ’em before their gone, you might not live to see the next.

  26. Brinskee says:

    Nope. No way. Oh hell no. There is nothing lust-worthy or interesting in this press release at all. In fact it’s pretty depressing all the way around. Why IN THE WORLD would Honda do this??

    Majorly disappointed.

    • VFRMarc says:

      Why would Honda do this? Because they can. Another commentator here – yesterday I think – had the answer: homologation. All the trick stuff will be on the street given time.

    • Gutterslob says:

      101hp cap notwithstanding, I think this is lightyears more lustworthy the the Desmodesidici road bike.

  27. Trpldog says:

    Ha Ha Ha – Honda is kidding right?? How utterly ridiculous. I think losing so massively in Motogp here lately has fried their brains. On the bright side, they could give one to Jay Leno to make them feel better.

  28. Scarecrow800 says:

    I’d be curious to know how they limited a 1000cc bike to ” only ” 100 HP. Does it actually have very short, low duration cams and 8.5 to 1 compression pistons, or, is there a rev limiter that cuts it off at, say, 8500 RPM that, if accidentally unplugged, would inconveniently allow the motor to rev to, oh, I don’t know, say like, maybe … 15,000 RPM?

    • guu says:

      Look at what comes with the (not for US) track kit. ECU is the biggest item. I highly doubt there’s an easy to by-pass way of getting full power. There wasn’t with the RC45.

    • mickey says:

      the ECU controls it. EVERY bike sold in Japan is limited to 180 KM or 112 MPH.

      My 1140cc CB 1100 is ECU limited to 112 mph and only has 88 hp. (you can have the ECU reflashed and get rid of not only the speed limiter but the rev limiter as well and run into the mid 130 mph range.)

      The FZ09 is limited to 134 mph in the US

      All other motorcycles, even the 200HP HR2,and 2015 Yamaha R1M are limited to 186 MPH world wide, by agreement. There is no agreement however on how fast you can get to 186 MPH.

      • mickey says:

        I should say every motorcycle sold domestically in Japan is limited to 112 mph, (not every motorcycle made in Japan)

  29. Hot Dog says:

    Unobtainium for mere mortals.

  30. Ron H. says:

    $185k??? Only an idiot would pay that price. $18.5k maybe.

  31. John says:

    Honda has lost their minds.

  32. Neil says:

    My 96 VFR had 103HP and because of the torque I never needed more than that. Given that it is a street bike you will actually be able to enjoy the motor, whereas if it had 157 HP you would not be able to on the street, so what’s the point? On the street you need torque and it has plenty. My TU250 had 15 HP and I was able to race the traffic around just fine except on the highway. If we put electronic this and that on a street bike, well, you’re not riding the bike then. Electronics are holding the engine back anyway. Why do you want to crash 184,000 dollars? It would be immensely fun to ride as is, just as my VFR was.

    • Blackcayman says:

      apply all that dumb logic to a $1.75 Million Lamborghini with 296 HP

      “That’s all the HP you’ll ever need” says the salesman.

      (((of course the point is made with some hyperbole)))

    • Jeremy in TX says:

      “Given that it is a street bike you will actually be able to enjoy the motor, whereas if it had 157 HP you would not be able to on the street, so what’s the point?”

      Neil, I have to say that makes about as much sense as a $184,000 101-hp motorcycle.

      • TF says:

        The demand for 150HP+ motorcycles is going to dry up any day now……this based on my visit to six different dealers where I could not find a single TU250 sitting on the floor.

        Honda is way ahead of the curve with this bike.

        • Blackcayman says:

          stay in your room until Norm gets here to set you straight. I don’t have the patience for it…

          While you do try reading “Basic Economics” by Thomas Sowell.

          • TF says:

            Wow, how did you avoid stepping in my sarcasm? LOL!

          • Blackcayman says:

            Sarcasm is oft-times lost in written form.

            The sad fact is there are motorcyclists who believe that kind of tripe.

        • Jeremy in TX says:

          “The demand for 150HP+ motorcycles is going to dry up any day now”

          I remember when people were saying that about all those 90+hp death traps. Of course the demand for those did dry up… and was replaced with 150 hp ones.

  33. NotDylan says:

    This isn’t the only bike Honda makes with a V4 and roughly 100hp. Though, the other only costs $12.5k….

  34. Tom R says:

    Who at Honda signed off on this?

    This guy must has the same yes-men who used to work for Michael Jackson when he was having them install the zoo cages and spare rooms for little boys at Neverland Ranch.

  35. Jeremy in TX says:

    I really can’t make much sense of this. Why not just make it a fully kitted out track only bike? Is there a lot of demand from sheikhs and oligarchs wanting to be seen on pulling up to the casino on one of these?

    When we heard this bike was coming eventually with a huge price tag, I really was expecting something pretty special. What a let down. I’m not even sure why it would be very valuable as a collector item, other than being rare.

  36. Blackcayman says:

    We’ve known for some time that Norm was right about what neighborhood this would be in regarding pricing…

    Now that they tell us the HP, the $184,000.00 is %$#@*&!!!!!! (Bat-Shit-Crazy).

    So BMW, Ducati, Kawasaki, Aprilia and Yamaha all make street-legal Superbikes for 1/7th the price?

    If you saved the $155,000.00 – $167,000.00 and bought a more powerful bike, you’d have plenty of quid for private coaching, track days, leathers, helmets, assorted track kit, a couple of bikes for your buddies to join you, an enclosed trailer and truck to pull it… Did I miss something???

    • xLaYN says:

      Maybe it’s just a collectionable item, they for sure would not build thousands of them.
      Any owner will probably just buy it with kit installed anywhere where it’s sold and ship it to any place the live on without asking the price.

    • Norm G. says:

      re: “We’ve known for some time that Norm was right about what neighborhood this would be in regarding pricing”

      it’s a gift.

  37. HMAppalachia says:

    Well it is $70k less than I guessed!101 bhp,saving the planet is costly it seems?As far as HRC selling anything close to what they race?That practice only somewhat existed for HRC during the RS500/250/125 days imo!

  38. Mike says:

    Your vote

    1. V4 Honda RC213V-S (in this article)

    2. V5 Honda (for the 600 and 1000+ street bike markets)

    3. V6 Honda DN-01

    • John says:

      #2, though a V4 is more than sufficient. Don’t think a V5 brings that much.

      I really miss my 700cc Sabre and wish they’d make a new VFR, new Sabre and even new Magna at all three displacements again.

      • Mike says:

        The V5 would bring an all new excitement and motor leadership to the Honda sport bike lineup ….

        Plus ….this motor layout is the same as the Honda MotoGP bike which would be a factor for sport bike buyers.

        >>>>>>

        Would Mr. Honda have insisted on a street V5… of course and long ago.

        Would Honda today ever have a street V5…..of course not!

    • guu says:

      #1, easy. If Honda want’s to be world’s greatest m/c maker they need a halo bike. Same reason the car division needs NSX no matter how the Civic does. V5 makes no sense (unless dictated by rules for racing).

  39. Ricardo says:

    Ok I just watched the video, Marquez says the bike feels very similar to his motogp bike and that the bike leans the same, and he can drag his elbow on this one too, and that he would like to have #93 of the production bikes but what does that tell me? absolutely nothing, he can do the same on good bike in my opinion…at a fraction of this cost.

  40. Ricardo says:

    Why would I purchase this POS if I can buy a Ducati Panigale Superleggera at less than half the cost with much more in it? not that I have the money for the Ducati but…

    • Brian says:

      Of all the things you could say about the bike, “POS” seems about the least justified…

      • Brian says:

        …then again, I just now saw that part about the 100hp limitation. You may have a point.

    • Norm G. says:

      re: “Why would I purchase this POS if I can buy a Ducati Panigale Superleggera at less than half the cost”

      it should be noted this bike isn’t just targeted at the wealthy…? it’s targeted at the wealthy who ASO happen to have a working knowledge of MotoGP. this basically excludes 99.9% of motorcyclists, even the most genuine needn’t apply.

  41. Tom R says:

    For this price I would kind of expect them to throw in a fender eliminator kit, eh?

    • azi says:

      Technically fender eliminators are not street legal. The point of this bike is making a race bike street legal.

  42. Tommy D says:

    I’m buying two! One will be my winter beater and the other I plan to customize with extended swing arm and chrome frame.

    • Norm G. says:

      re: “I plan to customize with extended swing arm and chrome frame.”

      OMG, you don’t know how badly do I want to remove those fairings, hammer the tank, fit a stunt cage and 60 tooth.

  43. Tom R says:

    Color: HRC Tricolor, Carbon Fiber
    •Price: $184,000
    •Availability: Reservations for this limited-production model will be taken exclusively through the official model website: http://www.RC213V-S.com beginning at 3:00 p.m. PST on July 12, 2015 (at which time the crickets will be heard chirping.)

  44. Tom R says:

    P.T. Barnum is smiling in his grave.

  45. Kevin White says:

    It’s not 101 HP. It’s 157 HP. Still not the 210 or so that the “kit” unleashes.

    • Honda is Confused says:

      No, it’s definitely 101 in the U.S. AND the power-up kit will not be available for U.S. models.

    • benji says:

      Well it depends, 101 HP in the USA, 157 HP in Europe, 70ish HP in Japan, 215 HP with Race Kit (only available outside of the USA).

    • Bob says:

      Read the specs again, bub.

      US market is limited to 75 kW, and the sports kit will not be (officially) sold here, either.

      What a joke.

      • Kevin White says:

        You’re right. A few other websites were reporting the 157 HP (159 PS) without mention of 101 HP in the US, but one in particular now has edited their post to show the 101 HP for the US market. That seems like a severe restriction on an engine that can push 215 HP with some “kit” parts.

  46. falcodoug says:

    Why?

  47. Randy in Nebraska says:

    YGBSM

  48. Axle says:

    Honda – in a dream world as usual.

  49. Cagefree says:

    A modern NR750? Underpowered and overpriced. Too bad Honda didn’t build something to replace the CBR1000 that was special but still affordable and attainable by the average rider to compete with the new R1.

  50. Jeremy in TX says:

    $184K and they can’t throw in the “power up” kit?

    I’d be interested to know how much it weighs. That would be a pretty good indication of how close it really is to a MotoGP bike.

    • benji says:

      418lbs curb weight, 380lbs dry.

    • Tank says:

      At that price they better “throw in” a house.

    • Jeremy in TX says:

      Thanks. That is light, but not MotoGP light assuming the factories are hitting around the minimum weight limit rule of 160kgs. I could be wrong in that assumption, though. Heck, I don’t think that is all that much lighter than a Panigale if I remember right.

      • Norm G. says:

        re: “I don’t think that is all that much lighter than a Panigale if I remember right.”

        no worries, supreme lightness isn’t the be all end all goal in racing. that’s really a psychology worshiped by the consumer. components that work in the environment of the greater loads and forces present on a race track aren’t necessarily going to be the lightest. they can’t be. they are simply “light within reason”.

        you know the mantra “light makes right”…? ok that thinking lasts right up to the point you put a rod through the front of the cases.

        MotoGP engines for example are absolutely NOT the featherweight assemblies everybody thinks they are…? not unlike a diesel, those engines are deliberately constructed heavier than your typical street engine. why…? cause they have to be. (relative to steel) aluminium has almost no resistance to fatigue and thus HAS to be built to live it’s whole life RELIABLY (key word) making 250-275 brake horsepower.

        the M1 block is unique (or at least was) in that it’s machined from billet same as the 500ci blocks used in Top Fuel. I suspect Suzuki has done the same with their Crossplane. I invite you to drop either one of those blocks on your big toe and let me know how “light” you think they are…?

        • Jeremy in TX says:

          “they are simply “light within reason”.”

          I disagree with that. Well, with the semantics at least, in that it implies that there is a weight that is “good enough”. Light weight is not something just worshiped by the consumer: it is one of the gods of racing. The whole reason there is a minimum limit is because these bike can be made lighter. The expense just becomes prohibitive for all but the deepest pockets as each additional gram gets ticked away.

          Everything has to be strong enough to cope with the massive forces, agreed. But, those bikes are engineered to be as light as they possibly can be to cope with those forces. I read that the GP15 rang in right at the minimum weight limit. If the limit were 5 kgs lower, I bet they would find a way to drop 5 kgs.

  51. benji says:

    $185,000 for a 101hp bike with no option to unlock full power?! WTF were they thinking? They blame regulations, but Kawasaki can sell the 300+ HP H2R?! Heck, even the CBR600RR makes more power than this bike.